tier list

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    Quote from robi1102

    I have no experience, but i am doing also things and I see how good chanters doing pvp:thumbup: EDIT: if U cant win vs many classes, Ur set and skill is not in pair with Ur char's experience :)

    Yes yes ofc that must be it :rofl:

    Bro / sis, nothing personal lol. Explain me only one thing, why i see such chanters dealing perma stun or stumble and such worst cancer than bard or sm or idk? Just u stand or lay and watch how u r just dying ... I have alt chanter only just to understand his mecha. Maybe i am not experienced and this class very difficult for me so i not even do any pve in Gelk xD , but for me very strong class. I see in skills only one thing: low base skill's dps. Just think, why NCSoft not boosting Ur damage? Caus if will do that, U will become unstoppable. They did just for painter and gunner and forgot for balance. I wanna boost some classes to they can solo something, because now it is RIP and two classes R in 1st place. Noone class has Def pvp skill +3000 and also noone class has 100 000 points' shield - Only two classes EDIT: + cler. And if end one skill, turn on another xD.


    Ur class is support and will always be, same as bard. Bard got better nerf than chanter - no ascended soul variation, and mana redu changed from amount to % and need a cancer build (penguins + paral) to have any chance vs good physical classes.


    EDIT: maybe glyph will help vs some classes - i mean this op paral from cler and this trolling stumble :(

    Edited once, last by robi1102 ().

    I will stop arguing with you, you're obviously not among the top pvp players and you have no clue about the current class balance with 2 players who really mastered their class.

    Maybe from your point of view chanter gets trashed by templar and wins vs assa and bard, reality is very different.

    Templar stand almost no chance vs chanter, they can't stop them from sustaining and their burst is not nearly enough to take out an equally geared chanter, Chanter can't do much vs Assa especially if they have a good stun pene rune unless successful evasion procs and ruins the whole assa stunlock (DP aside, because chanter can handle assa pretty easily with DP, but then the assa can just dp hide and come back later), and bard litteraly can't die vs chanter as they have way too many tools to reset the fight/protect themselves and burst you 100k dmg out of sleep (not even talking about para).

    Sure even a 100-0 losing matchup can be won by the underdog class sometimes, because this game has a big part of rng in the fights as well and sometimes the RNG is so much against you that you will die even to a class that you're supposed to stomp.

    I hate stupid people.

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    the sm is good 1v1, in a group you are focus and you have no resistance, there are more broken classes like the ranger or the gunner

    Gunner or ranger are fast food if you know how to play your class and you aren´t undergeared^^ SM is really the most broken class if played right no other can be as cancerous as this class.


    Your experience propably comes from being undergeared compared to your mentioned classes. But with same gear you should be able to handle them.


    Gear differences are your worst enemy since 6.0 anyway, it´s just not playable if you can´t keep up with most peoples gear status. Thus imo those tier lists are pretty much obsolete since i bet many people compare situations(without knowing) where one has way more gear than the other...

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    Gunner or ranger are fast food if you know how to play your class and you aren´t undergeared^^ SM is really the most broken class if played right no other can be as cancerous as this class.


    Your experience propably comes from being undergeared compared to your mentioned classes. But with same gear you should be able to handle them.


    Gear differences are your worst enemy since 6.0 anyway, it´s just not playable if you can´t keep up with most peoples gear status. Thus imo those tier lists are pretty much obsolete since i bet many people compare situations(without knowing) where one has way more gear than the other...

    honey I've been playing for years and I have the best team I can have, I'm not talking about not beating one player or the other, I'm talking about what the classes are like right now, the ranger and the gunner right now are the most broken classes in pvp, if you don't want to see them there. I have no problem using my character, I am usually the sm with the most dps in sieges and the third in pve

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    I somehow have hard time beliving this.

    Well, it's easy, use dps to put in the sieges honey, I don't have to lie, whenever you want you can come with me to an instance and I'll show you the dps I do

    the next day I copy and paste the dps of gelmaros boos and divine pvp


    divine fortres (ALL PVP)

    <<Players>> Adrenalizeme: 9,576,221, Yortus: 6,294,735, Frykan: 5,911,373, Mjiu: 4,449,859, Squall: 4,436,929, Jare: 4,393,294, Akasaki: 3,966,214, Skillndeed: 3,329,162, Lightning: 3,320,308, Szmoludek: 3,153,398, Warkings: 3,122,669, Bluefunk: 3,064,065

    frortres gelmaros 1 boos (only sm)

    <Ulsaruk> Exult: 8,966,749, Mitri: 6,758,919, Yortus: 6,445,154, Evander: 5,273,619, Ameeray: 4,425,183, Ashtarotth: 3,609,785, Holybird: 3,313,781, Tajma: 3,147,181, Hajimari: 3,056,938, Bdsmka: 2,591,429, Cassidi: 2,547,776, Bjornz: 1,902,106, Ondine: 1

    fortres gelmaros 2 boos (only sm)

    <Ulsaruk> Exult: 8,932,187, Mitri: 8,792,339, Yortus: 6,528,613, Ashtarotth: 5,129,399, Evander: 5,006,022, Ameeray: 4,396,345, Tajma: 3,692,035, Hajimari: 3,277,802, Holybird: 2,693,029, Bdsmka: 2,346,588, Bjornz: 2,017,530, Cassidi: 1,343,297, Ondine: 1


    by the way my stigmata are at +10

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    What has top player and normal player to apeaking about the tier? Aura, U listed matchups where one class mostly loss vs many classes and i think it is Ur observation. My observation is different, but stop harass me. U R trying be annoying, so I will let U :)


    100k ... the most skill i received being in main in previous patches was from painter for 119000 with crit from colour monster (7.2). From bard to my not +15 geared alt sin for 68000 from frog. 100 000 from magic class to ur chanter = R U wearing any set with some rolled defence? or maybe Bard has 28 000 attack? Tell me more caus it is very curious. Even U have all transformation collections and item collections, U cant gain 28000. If means about combo being in paral - maybe if U see casting sleep, put shield for 80 000 damage xD. Every class has burst mecha. Sin with full buffes also, glad with this attack skill also, and chanter also. Speaking about good runes + glyphs = it is only for enemy? why not make +5 rune and why not put to +2 bless slot stumble xD

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    In the Open World, If It Exists.

    Which class are stronger?

    Need and now 4-5 Armor Set with different stats?


    if I had a mind I would not return to the aion

    A sin with a good levelled odian and rune can pretty much stunlock anything through their resist buffs unless they stack it with remove shock, which lasts 7 seconds. Hell, a good levelled rune, + odian + deadly focus can sometimes stun through remove shock consistently. Its simply ridiculous. Glyphs helped a bit but the combination of rune + odian + deadly focus is still ridiculous.

    what a broken class... then gunner comes around and bb

    U suffer stumble? Put glyph for defend it.

    U suffer paral? Put glyph paral resist for it

    U suffer other things? Put glyph for defend it.

    U can stunlock Vichel - right - for 7s long if Runes + Odians good enchanted. But defender can pur glyph for stun resist to decrease Ur chance for stun. Also idk what is with Ur attacking - i mean sin: if sin is tryhard me a lot and very hard, my char is going to "move back". U can correct me, but i think this movinf back is a knockback. If right - there is also Glyph for it.

    U need to know, that glyphs can reidentify. Also, after 5 weeks U can have 12 glyphs and try drop very good one and also be lucky and have very good enchanted. If no, U can extract some to receive another one.

    U can have many glyphs for many Ur sets - if speaking about "top gaming". This patch gives an item, where a defender could have an ability to troll altered states or simply "come back-to-game" some classes.

    EDIT: also if about "top gaming" - idk. Did u try set resist? All altered states R magical states, even if some altered states R from physical skills. That mode U will still suffer physical damage, but U can RS an altered state. Why? easy - if attacker misses altered state's skill U see in Ur monitor "Resisted", not "Evaded".

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    If we are speaking about similar gear again, i just troll sins with my extend(glad) and i can do them even flawless sometimes... even without extend i can cancer them very hard. Ofc if you don´t know how to play your class you´re fast food to them.

    what kind of sins do you fight against? XDD

    Typical comment of clueless people^^

    same thing can be said to you i dont know which version of aion you are playing but definately not 7.7