Aion Classic Discussion

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    I don't think it would be a great loss. After playing for two days on NA I was quite surprised how much stuff I forgot in 12 years. I knew old Aion was slow, but actually trying that again...wow...it's hard to play it again. The teleport from Pande startpoint to Pande broker is not there yet and even running that path without speedboots was kind of painful. Most of the time I was thinking how patient we must all have been to play it. When I remembered about how many mats were needed for last 30 levels I soon realized that I simply don't have the will, energy or nerves to do it again. Sure it was fun back then, but so many things changed meantime it's hard to look back. My memories coloured brighter picture than what i've seen. It's just nostalgia vs. reality.

    TBH the hardest part I found was crafting it hurt as I had master in every craft before they removed it use to love crafting and now I am doing it again.

    Quote from Elysorrow

    I don't think it would be a great loss. After playing for two days on NA I was quite surprised how much stuff I forgot in 12 years. I knew old Aion was slow, but actually trying that again...wow...it's hard to play it again. The teleport from Pande startpoint to Pande broker is not there yet and even running that path without speedboots was kind of painful. Most of the time I was thinking how patient we must all have been to play it. When I remembered about how many mats were needed for last 30 levels I soon realized that I simply don't have the will, energy or nerves to do it again. Sure it was fun back then, but so many things changed meantime it's hard to look back. My memories coloured brighter picture than what i've seen. It's just nostalgia vs. reality.

    we got used with faster gameplay in aion... and in general in many other games that came along... so it's hard to go back. we got immersed into today's aion gradually... like the the boiling frog syndrome. your memories didn't trick you... it was like that for a while.


    like 100 years ago ppl thought the fastest car from that time was the best thing they ever experienced because it's all they knew. some that are that old might remember it like that but cars from today are much faster and better. 20 years ago the top pc from that time that you could get was the most exiting thing for ppl but from today's standards it's the biggest crap of pc. now we get impressed with the fastest pc we have today but in another 50 years ppl will look at it like a joke. same with games and many other things.


    the same happened with aion. it was a good game back then but it aged like milk. at least ncwest is doing god's work and help ppl get cured faster of their nostalgia xd

    It's okay to have different opinions. I for one really enjoy the feel of Aion classic and all that entails it like crafting/gathering/grouping in open world/sieges with more than 15 fps etc.


    Don't mind it being slower either. No need to farm events since many things aren't available in the game etc

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    I don't think it would be a great loss. After playing for two days on NA I was quite surprised how much stuff I forgot in 12 years. I knew old Aion was slow, but actually trying that again...wow...it's hard to play it again.

    That´s the point that I claimed when the glorification of AION classic began here in this forum. This is what people confuse between original old early AION and AION classic. They have good memories on old early AION and think AION classic would bring these feelings back, but that can´t happen, with AION classic you can get new good feelings or new bad feelings, but not the old good feelings back. But you can ruin your good old feelings that you already have when AION classic disappoints you.


    Funny side-effect: before NA AION classic release and before this discussion was removed to spam, there were several people in this forum that praised and cheered for AION classic, now after NA release, when people realize the massiv p2w-factor, most of those people got pretty quiet here..... :D

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    Quote from Elysorrow

    I don't think it would be a great loss. After playing for two days on NA I was quite surprised how much stuff I forgot in 12 years. I knew old Aion was slow, but actually trying that again...wow...it's hard to play it again.

    That´s the point that I claimed when the glorification of AION classic began here in this forum. This is what people confuse between original old early AION and AION classic. They have good memories on old early AION and think AION classic would bring these feelings back, but that can´t happen, with AION classic you can get new good feelings or new bad feelings, but not the old good feelings back. But you can ruin your good old feelings that you already have when AION classic disappoints you.


    Funny side-effect: before NA AION classic release and before this discussion was removed to spam, there were several people in this forum that praised and cheered for AION classic, now after NA release, when people realize the massiv p2w-factor, most of those people got pretty quiet here..... :D

    Cause they all busy playing Classic Aion.

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    Quote from Elysorrow

    I don't think it would be a great loss. After playing for two days on NA I was quite surprised how much stuff I forgot in 12 years. I knew old Aion was slow, but actually trying that again...wow...it's hard to play it again.

    That´s the point that I claimed when the glorification of AION classic began here in this forum. This is what people confuse between original old early AION and AION classic. They have good memories on old early AION and think AION classic would bring these feelings back, but that can´t happen, with AION classic you can get new good feelings or new bad feelings, but not the old good feelings back. But you can ruin your good old feelings that you already have when AION classic disappoints you.


    Funny side-effect: before NA AION classic release and before this discussion was removed to spam, there were several people in this forum that praised and cheered for AION classic, now after NA release, when people realize the massiv p2w-factor, most of those people got pretty quiet here..... :D

    Cause they all busy playing Classic Aion.

    not really...

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    39% in the prime time in a weekend. this is after a week and a half after launch. if we combine our 4 eu servers we get more active ppl than na.

    and funny enough how live servers went from constant 2% to 5%... so a few more ppl are going to the other aion.

    aion classic in na is aging like milk

    The percentages on Aion NA are based on near 10.000 being 100%. At EU servers it is based on a lot lower. Also NA is busy during all times of day since people across many different timezones are playing the game. But u can think whatever u want.


    On NA aion almost everyone is a paying player, unlike EU. So u can't even compare f2p with p2p servers.

    it was 5.5k back in the day when we had precise numbers and not percentages... not 3k

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    On NA aion almost everyone is a paying player, unlike EU. So u can't even compare f2p with p2p servers.

    in reality... not really. so many from brazil or other sa country play for free... or even from mexico. there are a lot of players from those parts in na. even some americans think that a sub and a pass is kind of expensive. but it's true that they have more ppl willing to pay more... like p2w... as we had our arabic ppl paying more than europeans.

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    it was 5.5k back in the day when we had precise numbers and not percentages... not 3k

    Quote from Zergie

    On NA aion almost everyone is a paying player, unlike EU. So u can't even compare f2p with p2p servers.

    in reality... not really. so many from brazil or other sa country play for free... or even from mexico. there are a lot of players from those parts in na. even some americans think that a sub and a pass is kind of expensive. but it's true that they have more ppl willing to pay more... like p2w... as we had our arabic ppl paying more than europeans.

    My problem is NC HQ (Korea) is thinking in a p2w mindset even for classic and its seems like a final milking of Aion as franchise to me.


    Another thing is NcWest blew the potential in a Western classic with all the drama and BS they pulled. + GF is occupied with SOLO, a "brand new" game of theirs with stuff like: better housing system and side activities. (I did some reading on reddit)

    I see Aion to be placed to the same self as TERA for example: like the "it just exists, whatever" one by GF. Esp after the limited collection weps having limited time themselves lol.

    The reason for our discussions on this forum was our demand for a classic server.
    Since NA released Aion Classic, which is available for anyone who wants to play, our hunger for Classic has been satisfied.

    There is no reason to continue emotional discussions. However anybody who still wants to talk about Classic is welcome to do so.

    they will continue to milk it as long as it's profitable for them and have ppl addicted to the game

    for them it's a dead game. it took them a lot of time to come up with a terrible patch like 8.0 and all the small patches in between are more rare and insignificant changes. they probably gather whatever students are doing practice in the company to develop this game... the original team has moved to more important projects.

    they are paving the way to the mobile aion so the ppl don't forget about aion.

    With some changes classic could be a nice revival instead of just same packaging. Since starting zones were already redesigned they could've included them. And getting rid of three grades of scrolls, maybe keep 10 minute scrolls instead of 5 min and keep just 30% ones wouldn't hurt either or lower the amount of different grades of pots and redisign the crafting system. A bit more practical approach could make people happy for longer time.


    I just wonder if changes and patches will follow the same order as in the past, with same cancels of features etc. Since they don't seem to put in any effort I suspect they may provide the first time machine...

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    Cause they all busy playing Classic Aion.

    Nice joke mate, you really made me laugh. :D


    I guess Gameforge knew how much p2w AION Classic NA will be before it went online and how pissed the formally enthusiastic fans will be then. Maybe that´s the "technical issue" why they wait that long to bring AION Classic EU or won´t bring it at all. Now potential customers are warned and Gameforge lost its moment of surprise. Maybe they think "people can´t be that stupid to buy OUR Classic when they saw how NC-West screwed THEIR Classic". Don´t worry Gameforge, many people are that stupid..... ;)

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    Cause they all busy playing Classic Aion.

    Nice joke mate, you really made me laugh. :D


    I guess Gameforge knew how much p2w AION Classic NA will be before it went online and how pissed the formally enthusiastic fans will be then. Maybe that´s the "technical issue" why they wait that long to bring AION Classic EU or won´t bring it at all. Now potential customers are warned and Gameforge lost its moment of surprise. Maybe they think "people can´t be that stupid to buy OUR Classic when they saw how NC-West screwed THEIR Classic". Don´t worry Gameforge, many people are that stupid..... ;)

    Keep living in your bubble Murphy. Enjoy Aion casino simulator.

    You call it screwed because of the candies, yes it's not ideal, but OG aion is a lot LOT worse. Atleast in classic u can do all content, enjoy everything there is in the game, and eventually be at the same spot as people who have spend money. Try that on OG Aion where all is based on farming events with your alts in order to progress, such fun gameplay :o


    But yes the real reason is cause people are playing and enjoying the classic game.


    Btw, how long u think OG aion will get more patches and developments?

    Classic aion in Korea has 7 full servers, OG aion has 2 empty ones.

    Which version will Ncsoft focus on u think?

    alts play was in og classic as well. when i got my miragent i leveled like 5 chars for that stupid quest and i wasn't the only one doing that.

    to get masters in every craft i had to do it on alts.

    or when the 30e-50e pieces of gear were tradable i farmed ap on alts on afk dredges... and everyone was doing that and we formed afk groups. they were unable to win so this is the time from all afk instances started.

    when we had shugo tomb and other events everyone was using all their alts.

    or when everyone was farming balaur mats solo in dark poeta on alts because of limited entries and kept the main char for real runs.

    others leveled alts to keep up with space inventory... because we had so many different materials back then.

    there are many reason for why ppl farmed the game on alts.


    the downside now is that we have nothing much to farm. events are not rewarding... default game has little to no resources to give. but the game got better in some other ways... mostly with qol features.


    ppl enjoy classic so much that they spammed the na forum with complains... which get deleted after a while. such a simple solution to all the problems they have.

    how ppl can enjoy classic when it's such an obvious p2w crap?


    and they don't need to focus on developing classic. the game is already written. all they did was to bring some further patches much sooner... a pass design and a cash shop design. so much development.

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    Back in the day you didnt HAVE to go on alts in order to keep up. Now you are literally forced unless u just don't want to progress. Yes on earlier patches u could get more balaur material with alts if u want to, but you don't have to., u could do other things on your main to get kinah and just buy them.


    With AP gear u could also go on alts, i never needed to in order to quite quickly get my full 50e set. You could do it the way u did for quicker progress, sure. Does that work the same in current 7.9? No, u can farm on alts and get tea or other shit u don't need, most of the time actually.


    No point in mentioning all your activities u did on alts. The point is, u can get everything in classic. You can get the best gear/weapon/manastones and u can enchant them just as far as someone who pays real money. Try to do this on 1 character in 7,9 with runes/odian enchanting, transformation contract collections and all the other shit required items to get higher stats.


    I wish you good luck.


    And yes there will be development for classic, they allready said they will surpass patch 2,7 and go into an entirely different direction for 3.0.

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    You call it screwed because of the candies, yes it's not ideal

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    Atleast in classic u can be at the same spot as people who have spend money.

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    the real reason is cause people are playing and enjoying the classic game.
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    Keep living in your bubble

    Oh man, your first post made me laugh, but this post made me nearly drop from my chair from laughing. You are a real comedian my friend. :)


    Btw: I read NA classic forum too, the only people you can dazzle about NA classic are those who don´t. ;)

    Okay Murphy that's cool i'm not here to persuade you. You should play the Aion you enjoy most, even if it's a casino simulator.

    Still waiting for classic in EU as I refuse to play assassin with 100+ms

    But, from what I saw people are making mountains out of a molehill. These candies sold at the npc are gonna give you an advantage till what? Level 25? Then after that people can get way more money than that by simply playing.

    And even then, what are you even gonna buy at broker before lvl 25 that you can't get yourself in a few mins?

    The most sensitive point imo is the AP. They should never sell unlimited amount of AP. Some crowns through battle pass is fine as we had VR giving crowns back then, but direct purchase of unlimited AP would kill the classic experience.

    I hate stupid people.