I just only just tried to open 2 Clients to login to 2 accounts on one PC I knew you use to be able to do on old client but seems can only run one game is there a way to be able to do this any help with be great.
Posts by Babydots
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Hi,
Let's put oversight to all the situation.
To get in picture the price of the stigma. Sorry but ~22kk is not much. Considering the pricess of Greater stigma it is ok. For example average player (not overly active) is geting ~10 AP per day. So getting single stigma is 8 to 10 days. So it is basically the same with 22kk Kina. 1-2 mil a day just from doing instances (also not overly active) (solo SR/Taloc &/or UT/LUT/ADMA/TL) is very easy. Don't see the problem here.
Now, on the other hand this provides nice game play there people actualy doing FT. I had no problem to make like 5-7 runs while I was lvl uping from 1 to 55. I can see daily like 7-10 FT group made. So considering the drop rate stigmas are roling in.
Now the issue is on Ely side as there are hard access to FT and no demand at all to do this instance. That's why Sage's Wisdom I on Ely side cost 40kk and on Asmo 20kk. But thats other topic.
Considering overall drop rates. To spend 10 days on getting key stigmas I think looks good. Don't agree? Well tell me how long it takes to get UT or BT full set? How many days of farming it takes? Not talking about about adding ManaStones and Enchanting it.
So looking in overall picture it starts to look not so bad.
it would not look so bad if it was not just cleric that had the issue, they seemed to have sorted the other classes stigmas out but Sage's Wisdom has not been, I was very lucky and got it while I was lvling at the start so I don't have the issue but many other cleric do and that's not fair on one class to have such issues.
It seems It drops more on asmo side that's why there not such an issue as stated that other topic.
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Ask KR to sort out for chain gloves with cast speed clerics always lose out to bonus on sets as we have to use cloth gloves.
Its been said time and time again and still nothing has been sorted.
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Hi!
I started to sell Siels energy over the gift function lately, the first customer I could send Siels right after I added him to the fl, but from the second customer it lasted till the next day until he appeared as frind to gift in the shop although 4/5 items to gift were left.
Is that know and intended and why?
yes it is its a joke i know but that's how it is.
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We always get the worst out of all the publishers in every aspect, droprates, servers, events, price, boosts..
You just have to logg in on live server to see what crappy 14th-birthday-giveaways Gameforge gives to people who partly were loyal to this game and company for up to 14 years and you realize, whats wrong with Gameforge.
i could not agree more
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I'd wish for a fix of drop rate AT ALL, I don't even want to complain about eternal/gold items ... we don't even get crafting materials from mobs .. oh wait 1 drop after killing 200+ x) We need flux, we need balic mats.
And no one can tell me NA has better drop rate, it's the same sh** only because it's the same drop as Korea had/has. We are EU/NA, we don't like that. The drop rate got fu**** after 2.4 and we have now a mixed version of that. Fix it.
I cant understand how you are saying NA is not better drops then EU also NA exp is much better and other things.
We are not Korean and the sooner GF understand this the better they cant just go with Korean patches they got to make them for the EU player base.
Well because I played it, and I knew as soon as we get this patch the drop rate is fu**** (lowlvl until lvl 50 is fine) Maybe the drops in instances are better now, but the drop is worse. NA got a fix earlier patch and everything was fine or let's say okay (atleast we got balic mats or even gold items when we farmed mobs - ye ye they drop but its rare.) and as soon as we got Padma patch all went back to really less drop, how about manastones ? and stigmas got added with a quest instead. I think they are some surveys/events yes, and well if you pay for daeva pass sure. Sorry but that's not how it should be.
i played NA from day 1 and the drops were better then EU, yes they still were not great but at least something dropped on the other hand EU is worse then NA.
Daeva pass you should not have to do you should still get drops but there is nothing on EU with or without. how about the lvl 20 manastones at lvl 50 i mean wtf.
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I'd wish for a fix of drop rate AT ALL, I don't even want to complain about eternal/gold items ... we don't even get crafting materials from mobs .. oh wait 1 drop after killing 200+ x) We need flux, we need balic mats.
And no one can tell me NA has better drop rate, it's the same sh** only because it's the same drop as Korea had/has. We are EU/NA, we don't like that. The drop rate got fu**** after 2.4 and we have now a mixed version of that. Fix it.
I cant understand how you are saying NA is not better drops then EU also NA exp is much better and other things.
We are not Korean and the sooner GF understand this the better they cant just go with Korean patches they got to make them for the EU player base.
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i remember discussions on the board and discord vividly where players asked/begged gameforge to not make leveling and ap gain too easy to more resemble the classic experience.
while the shitty drop rate and the npc prices are a different topic, for me the 150% ap gain on na which also included relics, dredgion and tiark was a mistake.
there is making it hard and making it very hard, the EU is not and never will be Korean players. there are no drops there is nothing for players who work there ass for for 0 drops.
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the drop rate needs fixing full stop more and more players are leaving due to them seeing no point.
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Please yessss
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Well we all know GF saying you have to work at it to get something that's there saying so its GF who done this and yes i also played NA Classic so do know there is a big Diff
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TBH GF would as a rule say what changes they want on each patch before its given to them for them to do what needs to be done before its released, so in my eyes its something GF asked for.
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if they are so taken by the name it should not have been a banned they should have given you a name change ticket and told you you had to change the name of the char.
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Not sure if this free +15 gear, +9 stigmas etcs is temporary because I just returned, but if it is... dang I love it!
you keep it its not temporary items.
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tbh its a joke I was away so will miss it, they do it this way so people don't get things.
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Can we atleast get a feedback if you are planing to release Aion Classic in this or in next year IF we get Aion Classic. If you can't anwser this question your company is operating under frivolous management.
Every company is planing/estimates on costs, revenue, profit, investments, etc in the begining of their accounting year. I never seen a company with "go with the flow" buisness model. Something new for me aswell.
You could easily said if we get Aion Classic we will go with this route with this payment model, with INT on language seperated servers, etc. You don't even communicate with your customers which is a strange behaviour. Are you paid by customers? You act/operate more like a public company who is financed by te state (via taxpayers money).
Or maybe that is your agenda 0 marketing, because you already now what kind of model you will release (same as NA) so for you it is better everything is on a hush hush so you can fast cash grab.
You don't have the right perspective, information, nor analysis of the situation. You seem to forget that there is one decisive factor that needs to be taken care of for the whole project to even come to an end.
There is no such thing as "go with the flow", everything is planned like for any other company. Doesn't mean it is the right time to share that type of info necessarily, there is a time for everything.
We do communicate, but so far only on the basis of what is certain or not and nothing is at this point (and I think it is a very fair way of communicating). We are of course considering all necessary topics in case we get AION classic. And in due time, everyone will be informed accordingly and in a proper manner. That is if we get the confirmation that we will actually have it.
It would be very bad from all possible perspectives to start sharing all sorts of details and then two months later explain that it will never happen. The day we do that, everyone will take it as a confirmation (a vast majority already took as a confirmation the little update I gave even though it was not) that we will get classic. Consequently, this would happen only when we have confirmation as I explained already in this thread. That is the only proper way to proceed.
You don't start marketing on a product before you are sure you will get that product, no one does that either and for very good reasons.
So you see, I disagree with you because I see or know no reasonable company that would handle this differently than we currently do as it is the most reasonable, meaningful and safest approach
so from what you are saying it is NCsoft holding this up with yes GF you can have classic or no they cant?
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So if I have 1 main account (SUB Siel) and I also create 100 F2P accounts by your standard you have 101 players but from publisher/Developer view I only pay for 1 what they get from the rest of 100 accounts I amde 0 they get only problems because those 100 accounts aren't for regular play but for illegal activities. If game is F2P the game will feel more active at first glance but when you look closer more boters then active players. If your definition of PVP is killing bots well for me that isn't comeptitive PVP. I rather have active players then those imaginery active players with F2P. The only F2P game who is in top 5 charts is Lost Ark. There is so many boters obvious it is F2P game that in single day they baned 1 mio booters.
The game was dead in 2010-2011 under those terms with all in their favor as ive said. Imaging in 2022 with none of those things.
Far from the truth if you look at that era it was active (still most yt pvp videos from that time). If you played it at that time you wouldn't state this BS. They changed the model because they misscalculated at lifespan of the game. Or it didn't have mass playerbase as WOW did at that time. It wasn't WOW killer (maybe their goal was to surpass it), so they tried with diffrent model and that was the biggest mistake they did.
Last time when we tried to discuss this you said go play dead game Aion Classic and you will play a man game (G2W), so I don't understand what is your agenda here posting if it is clear if you don't want to play Aion Classic. It is a free world but don't get it. Bravo to you aswell for taking down my 4-5 posts. Last time we discussed you vent offf playing a man game and reported all my posts. Just so we are clear I don't have nothing against you, but you wont see me at Lost Ark forum lurking there and stating this game is P2W, etc.
in 2010 / 2011 there was enough players, but the reason players left more so and then NCsoft changed to F2P and give GF Aion to run for EU was I believe how long it was taking to do the EU patches players were getting feed up of waiting. There was also a great deal of errors made or the lifespan of the game would have been a great deal longer, they had the PVE players and the PVP players and the PVE players did not like to get killed, so they started to change the game to try and make both pve and pvp players happy, they then made a big mistake with rifts, there were so many errors made over the time which made players leave.
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TBH Aion NA classic ended before it even started on the 1st day of release there were mess players quitting due to the candies and p2w, it was all over the internet and you could see it in game also, the next big issue was the mess bans for doing the repeat quests in SR, which NCsoft at 1st started they were banned correctly, then that changed to say they used the cheat to enter SR, and then the boxes came into it. by this time the servers were empty and players was really upset. NCsoft allowed the SR thing to carry on for so long, yet they knew about the bug due to it going on in KR. it was like NCsoft west did not know what they were doing or saying or how the game worked.
But the servers was empty by this time and that's when I left also, the game was so pw2 and not the Aion I started to play in 2009, to me its was all about money and a rip off of the player base.
The patches was also a big issue that made people leave they were taking so long to do any patches. not like KR was releasing them it was a mess from the start on NA