Aion Classic Discussion

  • to add that those that pay will have extra entries in instances. for some instances is irrelevant but imagine eso and further instances like pvp instances. rank becomes directly related to p2w... not just indirectly. very soon there is the 55 patch in korea and probably the next one in another half year. ppl talking like this is a marathon to get to som fixed point but it's not like you get your 50e and that's it... you continuously need kinah and farm and stuff and all the p2w small things snowball with time.


    for me the perfect balance of aion is a combination of classic and the main one.


    and i'm not talking about the p2w cash grab we have it now. every since they introduced more daily quests and stuff i hate them with a passion. daily lugbug and now frags... daily quests... daily dumaha or red katalam... daily login atreia pass and so on. so many that is required to login daily or you miss out. is just a stupid game design. then since 6.0 there is a shortage of everything and a lot more rng involved to get something... or nothing at all. and so many untradable items and such an unfun crafting system. now you can farm 50-70 stigma stones in a month only to find out that you wasted all in the next stigma event. you farm purple frags for making leg forms and fuse them and see that you wasted months of farming. so many times you waste your time completely... it's like you never farmed anything the whole time.


    classic has it's bad stuff as well. the single and most hated was manastone socketing but at least we had access to lots of manastones. classes were slow in speed and attack speed and somehow the game was less optimized and the message target is too far away was something you could hear all the time playing a sin. class balance was never achieved in this game. not now... not in the past either. now we have minions and some weapon triggers but godstones were too way much.


    there is too much to talk about both versions but if they reworked the current aion... with relevant farm in the game... trades and crafts... less rng overall (just a chain of rng events one after another to get one thing)... no cash exclusive items and p2w... i'd like the current version more.


    suggesting a reset of ap is out of this world. it doesn't compare with poe which is just a seasonal game and a non factor ranking for most of the community.

    the ap ranking was stupid but taking ap away from ppl is an impossible ask. ap is used to buy your greater stigmas... your most important gear... crafting mats or designs... consumables. it breaks the game even further if it's reset. imagine almost having ap for a gear part but the reset comes and all the ones that farmed that gear will laugh in your face because their ap was useful and your was not and this created a bigger imbalance between players because the gear and everything else doesn't reset like in poe.


    it's true... we had useless governor or commanders... some asmo guy level 40 or 45 farming only lower abyss and it was pink to highest levels and low levels could never kill it. the we had clerics that were just hoarding ap from solo eso and dredge... later those that spammed all the pve instances added to the game and unrelated to sieges. there is a reason why glory points was added... and the solution to classic. ap is still pretty relevant today... for upgrades and items... imagine resetting this one.

  • We're barely a week in and it's already quite noticable in PvP. The P2W folks are running around in gold coin gear, fully decked out with the best manastones, proper combines and enchants on the weapons while the rest is a mix of white/green/blue gear with nothing socketed/enchanted.

    Someone seriously expected not that way?

  • In case someone is reading this thread and has no clue, what's going on with NA version of AION CLassic:

    he forgot to say that the pass is mandatory to be competitive... not just the sub. besides the items you get... some things are pretty useful... for example the title is one of the best in the game for a while.


    he was showing items worth 1 mil or less. there are already 10-15 mil kinah items in the broker... for example high level stigmas. you don't get that if your full items you farmed sell for 5k-10k kinah at npc. you need similar luck of your own to afford that or a high amount of time invested into farming kinah. and crafting and selling consumables can't scale that high when ppl can get them by swiping the card and not from the players.


    there are more consequences and ramifications of what ncsoft did. some of the players... or almost half the population since day one... had a flashback of the past aion... 4.8 and forward... and cured their nostalgia within days. the next wave will cure their nostalgia within 3 months.

  • Complainers complaining while I'm here at lvl 31 with double the mboost of lvl 34+ SMs because I used my head and making millions daily for free and got decked out in gold gear with manastones and enchanted wep and I'm about to get kromede tome with 36 gold fuse.

    I could have been in the world race to 50 if I didn't reroll 3 times.

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  • The candy problem is a bit exaggerated. There will always be bots and kinah sellers and soon they will sell kinah cheaper than if you would buy the candy from ncsoft. Inflation is inevitable as long as there are bots farming. I'm not saying it's a good thing they have the candies but they will lose their effect as the game progresses. Whales will eventually just use kinah services. It does suck that the candies are too easy to access though.


    The good thing about daeva pass and the candy situation is, that it's boosting the pace of the game. Gearing and sieging will be faster and easier as items seem to be a lot cheaper on the broker. Hopefully the economy will stabilize in the end.

  • idk if they will lose their effect as the game is progressing. the items sell to npc seems quite nerfed and ppl right now use candies to compensate up to 1 mil kinah limit. the bots will have limited supply as well because of this limit... and they earn no kinah or rare items as f2p unless you play 1 hour a day... so they will have to buy a monthly sub.


    assuming they buy a sub... idk how much undergeared bots can farm in day or if they will reach the kinah daily limit before getting to 50 and risk a ban meanwhile... that besides worthy drops going to broker. bots usually don't equip good gear because they have to sell stuff for kinah and there is always a risk of getting banned. and you don't earn that much outside instances. so farming is slow for bots. the sub will subtract a considerable amount of that earning.


    right now the lfg is bombarded with kinah sells but the price is higher than the one sold by ncsoft... assuming those sites aren't just pure scams. whales can just create and level up alt accounts and sell candies on those accounts and trade the kinah in that 1 hour period with dual box. unless those sites make it much cheaper than ncsoft there is no point in buying from those when you can create your own.

  • They obviously won't. We're playing an MMORPG with a heavy focus on "competitive" pvp. Early advantages don't diminish, it's quite the opposite, the gap only get's bigger.


    Thinking a strong advantage in the first 7 days will just magicly diminish is wishfull thinking.

  • They obviously won't. We're playing an MMORPG with a heavy focus on "competitive" pvp. Early advantages don't diminish, it's quite the opposite, the gap only get's bigger.


    Thinking a strong advantage in the first 7 days will just magicly diminish is wishfull thinking.

    + They will add other things, so the $$$ will keep flowing. What stops them? Nothing.

  • Complainers complaining while I'm here at lvl 31 with double the mboost of lvl 34+ SMs because I used my head and making millions daily for free and got decked out in gold gear with manastones and enchanted wep and I'm about to get kromede tome with 36 gold fuse.

    I could have been in the world race to 50 if I didn't reroll 3 times.

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    Because you take advantage of the inexperience of other player. I dont say thats a bad thing, but what I want to say: even in a bad monetization environment there will be a few people that can take advantage of stuff that other people dont know (asymmetric information)

  • Complainers complaining while I'm here at lvl 31 with double the mboost of lvl 34+ SMs because I used my head and making millions daily for free and got decked out in gold gear with manastones and enchanted wep and I'm about to get kromede tome with 36 gold fuse.

    I could have been in the world race to 50 if I didn't reroll 3 times.

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    absolute chad

  • So far NA Classic has been full of issues on my end, ranging from being banned from billing, to being banned from logging in on the website, to being banned ingame.


    Just now a banwave targeting EU players playing with a VPN was issued.


    So far, in the week I played classic, I have had these issues with NCSoft:


    Try to buy Quna = nope.

    Buy sub = banned from billing, need direct support override

    Try to login on website = banned from website, not even support override allows you to login, you're stuck in permanent login loops.

    Play the game = banned from game.


    At this point I'm pretty done with the dumpster trash called NC West, gameforge may be trash but at least they're golden trash compared to this shitshow that is NC West.


    EU Classic can't come soon enough, I've had more accounts banned in NA in the past week than in EU in 6 years.

  • the only issue i had so far was payin for sub my acc was flagged n i couldnt pay them but with one ticket they solved it

  • I have had no issues but I did have accounts when GF took over Aion I moved to NA and they were all updated to lvl 80 chars when I came back to play before I came back to GF and updated all my accounts here, so all my accounts were live still in NA, so just made classic accounts from them accounts easy not had any payment issues or anything.

  • ^ ppl are looking forward to pay in doge coins?


    those issues can happen to ppl in na too... not just from eu. it's an old issue that never got to be solved.

    but to pay it back equally... just charge back in case you paid something... you are not missing much from never playing another game under ncwest


    that is why in the past i was paying for 2 games with codes (game time cards) bought from a different website... and i was making sure to never put a card on their website. i think you can still buy ncoins from different websites (offgamers amazon and whatever) and use the codes on their website... and never use a card. for me it was also cheaper... because they are scammers and for them a dollar equals an euro plus added international taxes... but i got no issues like many others that never recovered their banned accounts after paying for a while.


    so it's possible to play and pay but it's disgusting that after so many years they are still going on with this scam

    i didn't use a vpn tho... didn't make a difference and if bots are getting banned you might get caught in a ban wave along with the bots using the same vpn

  • is there any news from Galeas on discord ? :D cuz im not using it and we know .. here news are coming slower... 8o

    TBH after they closed all posts about classic on the forum when it was released in NA and they added this post to spam I don't think anyone will be hearing anything about classic in the EU as its not coming here.

  • I don't think it would be a great loss. After playing for two days on NA I was quite surprised how much stuff I forgot in 12 years. I knew old Aion was slow, but actually trying that again...wow...it's hard to play it again. The teleport from Pande startpoint to Pande broker is not there yet and even running that path without speedboots was kind of painful. Most of the time I was thinking how patient we must all have been to play it. When I remembered about how many mats were needed for last 30 levels I soon realized that I simply don't have the will, energy or nerves to do it again. Sure it was fun back then, but so many things changed meantime it's hard to look back. My memories coloured brighter picture than what i've seen. It's just nostalgia vs. reality.