Painter Guide

Quote from Gesufal

What are the optimal stats to have in PvP / PvE (with food, minion and transformation) ?

18k attack / 6k crit strike ?

I think most painters don't have as much crit strike in PvE at least considering you still depend on skills which won't crit anyway. Otherwise it's nice of course, but only possible with perfect gear, collections etc.

At least in my opinion I'd think that Painter is fine with less crit strike than e.g. a Gladiator. However, PvP ist probably different in regard of the skills you use there compared to PvE.

I am wondering if some of you have discovered any "advanced moves" with painter (like slide shot, animation cancellation or whatever...) ?

Btw, are you weaving or not ? We fall short of skills quickly.

Guys,with the nerf we got on bands,what happened with:ohh it's a cloth,have low defence,he dipend on the fast kill to can survive in pvp?!!,where is that,i see no one posting and screaming for that,like was few patches ago when same situations happened for other cloths like sorcerer for example,when everybody,scream and rage about that,no nerf cuze must be a fast kill to can survive!!Now it's weird to see no one complaining about that!No one complain now about painter,because it's a cloth(paper)and it's dipendant about fast kill,to can survive,it's like this class it's play'ed only from nubs,no one cares about that!I'm sure this class was designed for that,like sorc,or bard,to be a fast kill because dipend on that to survive!Now when half of his skills are far away nerfed,from where it was,you cant survive because you lacking off skill's,it's like a gun with half bullets!I perssonaly invested in this class from when i start to play here,when painter was introduced,i have my gear ultimate +15+10,and i'm almost all the time kill'd by a soldier rank one glad,or a gunner,or ranger...it's a shame,after so much time invested it's almost make me to quit game,when i see what happen,painter was dipendant on his bands to survive,and the nerf was ridiculous,absoloutly ridiculous,and more nerf comes,it'almost.make.me to delete it,but i have items for what i hard worked for months,i have mansion,i have s kromede,i have apostles,my red gear is 15. ...10 full socketed with psyh/crit stones,it's a shame to see after so much work,it become a paper class!and its a shame to see no one sustain this class like sorc or bard was in previous patches,because in my oppinion this vital nerf was done because of the huge but huge amount of negative feedback,and half of those doing it, have no ideea of this class,but nc heard,and do something very wrong!In era of aion i never see a nerf like that for a class,and i play it from 2011!I dont beg here,or searching for excuses,and dont tell me it's still strong,because it is not anymore,the dmg it gives now,its not enough for a cloth to survive in pvp,because the nerf he got by first try its absoloutly ridiculous!And more nerf comes,if its still strong why i see half of the painters i know play'ing,reroled to something else?!No its Not anymore!It is a ...wait to kill you class,because they cut his main skills absoloutly ridiculous,and the cut comes from the huge negative feedback,provided by players who dont know how to use this class!

Noone really cry about it because painter is still one of top classes_{, you're just bad}

yah the burst is still here its prolly the best burst class tho u gonna get nerfed again soon on monster n fist not criting anymore then u will be allowed to cry abit, laser in pvp was just a finishing move if u couldnt kill it a tankier class imo or just xform ability to chase :>

in my opinion painter have the strongest des from all cloth classes. U have the resist, the dmg reduction... a 1500(2000) m.def / p.def buff and i can one Combo 80% of the Players as painter ... i dont think that painter is so bad at the Moment. U just need to change ur playstyle and u can do much dmg.

Yesterday

Improved Color Fist : crit 36.754 damage, on a 15.200 pdef and 3.100 pvpdef player

Instant skill 21s cd btw.

QQ painter weak class QQ boost pls QQ one button not enough to kill anymore QQ im colorbomb QQ using more than 1 skill is hard QQ

Quote from callahan

And more nerf comes,if its still strong why i see half of the painters i know play'ing,reroled to something else?!

It was the same with chanter and AT in previous patches. Because it takes less time, effort and skill to play them when they are broken. In other words, when the overall power of painter will come closer to other classes, less people will play it.

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Quote from callahan

And more nerf comes,if its still strong why i see half of the painters i know play'ing,reroled to something else?!

It was the same with chanter and AT in previous patches. Because it takes less time, effort and skill to play them when they are broken. In other words, when the overall power of painter will come closer to other classes, less people will play it.

I think we discussed this on a previous page already. Some people strife for domination to be achieved in the easiest way - if this doesn't work out anymore they move on to the next (Tier) class. It's not the strongest class anymore, but not weak either by any means - furthermore it benefits the party a lot due to its debuffs. So if someone sticks to it they'll still be wanted by parties etc.

And seriously colorbomb please write in a more structured way if you want people to read your texts - and eventually press the space bar after ,. etc.

Quote from Gesufal

Btw, are you weaving or not ? We fall short of skills quickly.

Unfortunately weaving isn't as good for any classes recently (you achieve the same or even sometimes better results by ignoring it depending on the class). You can try it out and compare it, but there's probably not much of a change.

Heh, if you react like this now, wait for glaze coating nerf, colour monster and colour fist to be nerfed, then the blow nerf and aoe cones nerf.

Gonna prepare the popcorn in advance.

Quote from Sirkka

So if someone sticks to it they'll still be wanted by parties etc.

I want to believe this but personally i can't find parties doing end-game instances efficiently. The ones that do are already full or not needing any of my chars, which is pretty sad because now i have like 0 reasons to continue playing this game.

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I want to believe this but personally i can't find parties doing end-game instances efficiently. The ones that do are already full or not needing any of my chars, which is pretty sad because now i have like 0 reasons to continue playing this game.

Well, I don't know about Stormwing, but here we have about 3 (successful) parties for Beninerk NM. They have either 1 or 2 painters per alliance and it's not like we have that many more painters with such gear available (maybe about 3 or 4 more). Generally speaking - building parties depends lots on connections though as well as "showing off" your skill in random parties and as a substitute player. For example 3 or 4 of our substitutes became part of the static after a while.

Lately most people I played with left Aion and therefore I looked for parties myself too by a) reacting to groups looking for an additional member (ig, FB, whatever) b) being asked by fellow players c) substituting. There's always ups and downs, but returning to the Painter I think that the demand for the class will remain. Even if there'll be further nerfs upcoming.

Nobody cries because its still extremely damaging top tier in pvp class. It was 100% justified nerf. If you can only output dmg cus 1x skill is way too OP, then you are terrible at playing the class, seeing as its still top tier.