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well u cant even buy core items like legendary transform from the shop....im against p2w for example , I prefer farm my stuff in game, but its not possible.
So they don't put legendary transforms in events...so all can get them
and they don't put them in shop....I just cant understand this logic.
I understand u don't want all people getting them in game....but then at least put them in shop via a limit of x1 /account.
I wouldn't mind paying euro for a legendary transform but I want buy them straight not via rng box.
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I would literally have no problem with giving them $$ (it's not like I didn't get baited already...) but it needs to be smth meaningful and decently priced. And I am sure there are more ppl just as willing to support it as I am, that used to play said-game long ago and now have jobs/families/some-kind-of-social-life and much less time and could make up for the less time in game via few items from shop (while also having those items available in game and I underlined this so that the p2w-police doesn't flame me yet again)... but right now it's rng in game and rng in shop. wtf?... the in-game's rng (such as enchanting) is enough of a kinah/time sink on it's own... I just cannot explain the extra layers to be suited for the end of this decade and think this game can still survive
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exactly my point I saw they start implement legendary not long ago in some shugo game/ also box event, some people where lucky to get them np, now 3months later...we get them in photoshoot event where only 2 people gonna get them 2.....
other can attend fusion...but fusion from ancients which we don't get also via events....its just mind blowing for me.
I was somewhat lucky and got 5/6 double from letter event/fusion don't ask me how...I just got lucky I wait 1more and will have my 1 shot only for legendary, which will probably FAIL but still.
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I am 100% P2W , though what they do here is not even P2W , is lack of common sense.
7.0 is knocking at our doors , will be fun without legendary transformation , our gear will evolve / progress even more , as will difficulty on endgame dungeons and pvp , so yeah ... i love Aion , i will not leave , but i find myself spending a lot of money on other games , when i could be spending it here , investing on my progression . About the latest additions in the shop , please , i have money , but im not stupid .
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Galeas It is pretty clear that your hardcore fans are willing to support the game by paying money.
Put items on the shop already, bring back 4.x shop it was great. It allowed us to buy and sell on broker or buy to improve the gear owned by farming in game.
Give us transformation bundles like in Korea let us have a fair chance at transformations, make that a possibility for us. (btw average price for an ultimate in Korea is 800-1000EU and I am sure your big spenders will go for that and the casuals will stop at legendary)
I used to play this game 6-8hrs a day and now I am losing interest I am down to 1-2hrs a day because I feel like I lost the reason to login when the things I want to achieve have no real path to them.
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Galeas It is pretty clear that your hardcore fans are willing to support the game by paying money.
Put items on the shop already, bring back 4.x shop it was great. It allowed us to buy and sell on broker or buy to improve the gear owned by farming in game.
Give us transformation bundles like in Korea let us have a fair chance at transformations, make that a possibility for us. (btw average price for an ultimate in Korea is 800-1000EU and I am sure your big spenders will go for that and the casuals will stop at legendary)
I used to play this game 6-8hrs a day and now I am losing interest I am down to 1-2hrs a day because I feel like I lost the reason to login when the things I want to achieve have no real path to them.
Incorrect!
When 6.0 came in KR, people spent even 6k-8k usd to get ultimate transform.
In 7.0 it was easier, because of various more (new) scrolls in the shop. Chovegeta has a video from 7.0 where he obtained Kaisinel with around 3k usd.
Now a short clip from yesterday, of what's to come. Watch this, it's quite explanatory.
As you can see, since 7.2 arrived last week, he spent 470k quna on contract scrolls alone. He finally made all collections and got Marchutan. I saw him in 2 separate days opening around 8400 contracts and not getting all legendaries and no ultimate. Mind you, he already had all the previous 7.0 legendaries and Kaisinel, so it was easier to get duplicates for fusing.
Now the math. You can buy the biggest bundle of quna that gives you 4320 quna for 99k won. That means he spent 10.7 millions won. If we go by google, that means 8138 Euro.
So, 8138 euros in 7.2, after already having all the 7.0 legendaries and Kaisinel. Imagine not having any legendary in 7.2, so it will be a lot harder to get duplicates.
Do you wonder why he made a video about the sad state of the game, and Koreans complaining in the comments that the gap is wider and wider, and so many already struggled before this.
The really sad truth is that Aion KR is in a much worse state, and these updates are coming to us sooner or later.
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Galeas It is pretty clear that your hardcore fans are willing to support the game by paying money.
Put items on the shop already, bring back 4.x shop it was great. It allowed us to buy and sell on broker or buy to improve the gear owned by farming in game.
Give us transformation bundles like in Korea let us have a fair chance at transformations, make that a possibility for us. (btw average price for an ultimate in Korea is 800-1000EU and I am sure your big spenders will go for that and the casuals will stop at legendary)
I used to play this game 6-8hrs a day and now I am losing interest I am down to 1-2hrs a day because I feel like I lost the reason to login when the things I want to achieve have no real path to them.
Incorrect!
When 6.0 came in KR, people spent even 6k-8k usd to get ultimate transform.
In 7.0 it was easier, because of various more (new) scrolls in the shop. Chovegeta has a video from 7.0 where he obtained Kaisinel with around 3k usd.
Now a short clip from yesterday, of what's to come. Watch this, it's quite explanatory.
As you can see, since 7.2 arrived last week, he spent 470k quna on contract scrolls alone. He finally made all collections and got Marchutan. I saw him in 2 separate days opening around 8400 contracts and not getting all legendaries and no ultimate. Mind you, he already had all the previous 7.0 legendaries and Kaisinel, so it was easier to get duplicates for fusing.
Now the math. You can buy the biggest bundle of quna that gives you 4320 quna for 99k won. That means he spent 10.7 millions won. If we go by google, that means 8138 Euro.
So, 8138 euros in 7.2, after already having all the 7.0 legendaries and Kaisinel. Imagine not having any legendary in 7.2, so it will be a lot harder to get duplicates.
Do you wonder why he made a video about the sad state of the game, and Koreans complaining in the comments that the gap is wider and wider, and so many already struggled before this.
The really sad truth is that Aion KR is in a much worse state, and these updates are coming to us sooner or later.
I stand corrected. Thank you for the information.
Its shocking that it costed this much with the bundles they get, should we add one or two zeros on top of that if this was the case in EU/Gameforge ?
Things are looking bad and the game is designed around a cash shop that is non-existent in EU pretty much, which in return we get a pale version of the game.
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Darling ... Galeas is the community manager ... it is ok to be angry , but please , you are totally barking at the wrong tree my friend
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+ It´s not in Galeas´ hands to decide what they implement in the game and what not.
Regarding the fact that he said that under Nic´s management, everything endgame-related was reachable at some point..
Neither Nic nor Galeas can influence what happens to this game, it´s the friggin koreans that are in charge xd
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No. Wtf are u on man. Maybe a kaisinel.perma.should cost 10k or even 50k omegalul as u say. Wtf logic
If a normal contract that grants you a white transformation costs 49 coins how in the world is a legendary supposed to cost that low?
If you fuse the transformations always in 6-Stacks (lets say u have already all ancient and green ones because youre a lucky b@stard xD [take it with humour ty]) you would need 216 contracts (in case EVERY SINGLE PROC IS 100%) and the equivilant of 216 contracts is 10.584 aion coins. So how in the world is a kaisinel supposed to cost 10-50k xD?
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He is not wrong to bark at Gales since he's the only bridge between community and ppl managing the game. We have proof of this when they added the (lazy af solution) open-world drops, which kor do not have.
But seeing how the game is right now, almost every player would assume that he is not able to forward the proper feedback or gets stage-fright when it comes to actually talking to one of the managers (either event manager, shop manager, manager of managers...)
He needs to man up and schedule a meeting with the people in charge and say how bad the game really is (mostly because of their incompetence, but needs to just focus on the solutions). There are more than enough ways to fix the game, even without the help of NCSoft. You have to go big or go home on this one, no more bs like open world brainless farm with RNG or events with 30-days skins. NO! all that stuff is useless!
You have to address first and foremost:
- transformations (maybe it's about time to get a selectable legendary one via an event?!
- enchant stones (no, morphing 3-4x ultimate stones per week is not OK and definitely doesn't feel rewarding...)
- manastones (the supply of legendaries/ultimate ones is a complete joke)
- daevanian skill box (the so-called shugo needs to spawn like 5x at once or just add it to the loottable of each boss and mini-boss to allow ppl to upgrade the skills and ACTUALLY play the 6.5 patch...)
- stigma enchant stones (why aren't these a drop in instances, same as pve stones?!) most ppl don't even know they exist...
- a token system to gather mats and then exchange them for missing pieces of gear instead of relying on perma-rng to (never) get it (same as 5.x used to be with the crystals from library/garden gear)
- shop prices and shop rng via lootbox need to be toned down... it's unreal how bad then become and nobody that I know in game is using it anymore for anything else than selling Gold Packs
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yesterday I opened 25contracts on my main ofc was 1 large in 25 contracts..rest all whit, then I attempted fusion 6x white 6 times from which resulted 4 white -2 large...then I fused 6x large another large.....
then I tried 5x ancients which I farmed since months and attempted FUSION to legendary which resulted in another ancient, I wouldn't mind if I had gotten a random legendary but the fact that u don't even see legendary drives me in the direction of quitting the game.
Its unacceptable...to be honest...why are we limited to play like this. I wont even attempt to open the enchantment topic , failing ultimates 7times from 9-10 using Legendary and even ultimates resulted in fail....
So pls tell me whats keeping me from now quitting this game?
like I told in every post I made recently GIVE US LEGENDARYS IN GAME VIA EVENTS 100% for everyone or just put it in SHOP with limit/account
I don't care what option u choose just make legendaries available...
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yesterday I opened 25contracts on my main ofc was 1 large in 25 contracts..rest all whit, then I attempted fusion 6x white 6 times from which resulted 4 white -2 large...then I fused 6x large another large.....
then I tried 5x ancients which I farmed since months and attempted FUSION to legendary which resulted in another ancient, I wouldn't mind if I had gotten a random legendary but the fact that u don't even see legendary drives me in the direction of quitting the game.
Its unacceptable...to be honest...why are we limited to play like this. I wont even attempt to open the enchantment topic , failing ultimates 7times from 9-10 using Legendary and even ultimates resulted in fail....
So pls tell me whats keeping me from now quitting this game?
like I told in every post I made recently GIVE US LEGENDARYS IN GAME VIA EVENTS 100% for everyone or just put it in SHOP with limit/account
I don't care what option u choose just make legendaries available...
I had similar experiences. Plus to your options; they can put a selectable legendary contract to next elite rewards. Its only once for account anyway.
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Can someone from Gameforge explain to me the reason why most of the items were taken out of the shop?
I returned to aion in winter and only saw 1 skin in there and thought it was just an error.
I can clearly remember we had a wide variety of cosmetic items.
Are there some issues with Ncsoft?
I mean people used to cash a lot just for those items and I'm sure it would be way more commercially benefitial for the company.
Or did I miss something?
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No. Wtf are u on man. Maybe a kaisinel.perma.should cost 10k or even 50k omegalul as u say. Wtf logic
If a normal contract that grants you a white transformation costs 49 coins how in the world is a legendary supposed to cost that low?
If you fuse the transformations always in 6-Stacks (lets say u have already all ancient and green ones because youre a lucky b@stard xD [take it with humour ty]) you would need 216 contracts (in case EVERY SINGLE PROC IS 100%) and the equivilant of 216 contracts is 10.584 aion coins. So how in the world is a kaisinel supposed to cost 10-50k xD?
ive opened 200 contracts my self from aion shop. And got 1 legendary and all ancients from fuse or direct. But this is rng item. A guarantee to give u legendary or kaisinel even cant cost more than 10-20k ac cuz i guess like noone will buy it just the big whales thay are maybe 4 ppl in every server combined. Its logical. U just need 1 item to be happy not 5552636373 scrolls. Thats my logic behind what i said . But im more concerned on enchantment stones idc transform cuz i know no matter how much i cash ill never get kaisinel so who cares
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If you got a legendary out of 200 contracts youre giga lucky. i havent got a single ancinet in 100 contracts, 90% white and 3-4 green. I havent even got a single ancient through fusing them
And btw
ill never get kaisinel so who cares
NEVER say never because if it'll be possible someday (some koreans got it f2p btw) then your statement will be a lie xD
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If you got a legendary out of 200 contracts youre giga lucky. i havent got a single ancinet in 100 contracts, 90% white and 3-4 green. I havent even got a single ancient through fusing them
And btw
ill never get kaisinel so who cares
NEVER say never because if it'll be possible someday (some koreans got it f2p btw) then your statement will be a lie xD
Don't compare Korea / NA with EU version though, we are in a different sandbox with more expensive toys that we are not allowed to touch.
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If you got a legendary out of 200 contracts youre giga lucky. i havent got a single ancinet in 100 contracts, 90% white and 3-4 green. I havent even got a single ancient through fusing them
And btw
ill never get kaisinel so who cares
NEVER say never because if it'll be possible someday (some koreans got it f2p btw) then your statement will be a lie xD
Ill never get it and im fine with it tbh so doesnt matter xd
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