The only reason the "elitists" dont want to get pve gear in events is because we have worked for 5 months to get our gear and dont want that those people who are just crying all the time that they cant run it to get it blown up in the butt for doing nothing, Its not the problem that we dont want you to get geared but we want that you work for it like we did.
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Im a pve elitist and I still want to get pve gear from boxes
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Regardless of the rewards in the boxes, this is the single most toxic event that's ever been released. It really just promoted people to be toxic towards their own faction, and again gave the people with low ethic values and lots of gear a massive edge over the casual players. On Deyla there are groups of people in full red gear scouting for players opening their event boxes to steal them. This event is awful and you should really think your events through more. The only positive thing that came from the event is that we now know who not to play with.
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The only reason the "elitists" dont want to get pve gear in events is because we have worked for 5 months to get our gear and dont want that those people who are just crying all the time that they cant run it to get it blown up in the butt for doing nothing, Its not the problem that we dont want you to get geared but we want that you work for it like we did.
What about the people that have done their runs and got nothing for months? What about the people who don't get accepted into groups even full legendary? To hell with them right?
That are part of most that is wrong with this community, instead of helping he least unfortunate people some guys just want them to not have good gear because for some reason they believe themselves to be better than them or having "worked harder" when maybe they simply had more luck. Pure greed and selfishness. This is a completely flawed view of the game were the guys with good gear worked for it while those without it didn't.
Everyone would benefit from one piece of red gear, but no, because it would benefit those more unfortunate. Some people would be fine with losing an arm as long as those below them lost both of their arms. So yes, "elitist". Having better gear does not correlate always with having worked harder.
And disclaimer, I have very nice gear and also worked for it, but am not blinded by my own ego so much as to see that other people might not have been that lucky. -
The only reason the "elitists" dont want to get pve gear in events is because we have worked for 5 months to get our gear and dont want that those people who are just crying all the time that they cant run it to get it blown up in the butt for doing nothing, Its not the problem that we dont want you to get geared but we want that you work for it like we did.
PvE wise, I don't get why this bothers you.
If they are not in your group, why do you care about them ?
If they are in your group, why don't you explain to them ?
I understand that [you can think that] some people may never get better, but they surely won't if you never let them have a chance.
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I agree with some people here when they complain about what they call "elitism" however everybody needs to understand that this elitism is not created by players but by devs, yes when they make the 2 endgame instances PW \ Makarma with timer you need some requirements in order to succeed sorry but i prefer be called an elitist and do a run in PW in 15 mins than be there 3hrs because people dont know what to do, dont know how to dps its not fair for me to be there 3hrs being geared knowing what to do for someone that doesnt know anything about it. I went to HT with my alt on the other day we had a cleric and a templar in Lakrum gear we been there almost 2 hours untill both of them leave since none of them were able to do their job and suddently 1try with a different cleric and voila we finish that really easy, some people dont even bother to watch a guide to know what to do and harm the others by making them stay hours on instances that should be done in minutes so next time people start being "elitist" so they dont waste time. I disagree with people getting free ultimates on events we will see alot people with gear and no knowledge about the instances that will waste others people time and thats not cool at all. If you have issues finding a group to do instances create your own party , i only started having a PW\Makarma group when i decided to create my own group\ally or else also nobody would take me for anything.
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I miss the good pls Times where we had pveranks
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The most common reasons people don't want other people to get stuff (easier) are envy and entitlement. You know, these people could loose their gear-advantage. Wouldn't that be horrible? Especially in a game in which you can't actually "work" towards your gear since everything is ruled by RNG.
Yeah , that is the only reason hard working people that are already full red doing the runs in closed circles ofc oppose to a nice thing that could give all a small boost. Greed and selfishness.
I repeat , adding the red piece in the reward list with other things we all need.
In my case, I’m far from full red gear. Hell I got 4 parts on my main temp, 2 of which are PvP. My glad has 5 ancient pieces and rest is legendary +5. So, in my case, that sentence doesn’t apply.
Gear shouldn’t be freely given. I agree,: drop rate, luck in getting the part for your class, etc could be higher. Just don’t give people gear for free.
Then you are somewhat of an exception and I commend you for that. I still think that you should gear up fast though. Long-term gear progression is fine when you have a logarithmic progression system since that assures that the game is about skilled gameplay. What we currently have though is a heavily exponential progression system where certain skill effects (like percentual damage boosts or certain boosts on landing a crit) escalate that even more. It's almost exclusively about gear nowadays and not about skilled gameplay. To be honest, this patch would probably be good if everyone could run around in full ultimate meaning it all depends on skill.
That can happen, but only in private servers..
And I actually think skill, gameplay and knowledge still play a bigger part than gear, only towards PvE ofc, unfortunately.
As I said before, PvE atm is totally braindead and you can’t fail, although sometimes fails still happen somehow..
Yesterday I did HT - I know it’s HT meh - in 3 with my undergeared glad that gets rejected for 4 man runs and even PW, where it outdps’ other people with ultimates. This is why I think skill and gameplay still are a big part of the game. I’ve only been playing that class for 3 months, on and off, but first, before I wasted someone else’s time I took the time to learn it’s basics.
Would you rather invite someone under geared but knowledgeable in the game and class or someone that flashes a couple ultimate parts and in the end has a subpar performance? If people are gifted “free” gear, a lot more problems will surface.
Ofc it’s painful when you only miss one specific part and it never drops, but hey, keep trying. Your time will eventually come. It’s only PvE after all.
I disagree - at least partially. Sure, having basic knowledge about the game and its mechanics is important, but in this patch, gear is even more so. I dare say I'm pretty good in PvE with my two main-classes. I actually was in the Top 10 for several dungeons during the start of 5.6 where I was able to get somewhat decent - although not really "competitive" - gear. If I compare myself to other people who are somewhat as good as me at the class I'm playing, I can see the difference gear and certain Deavanion skills make. Just having the correct Deavanion skills enable you to make several million more damage points. If you couple that with the exponential gear treadmill, the relation between Deavanion skills and ultimate gear can easily triple if not quadruple your dps.
I agree with some people here when they complain about what they call "elitism" however everybody needs to understand that this elitism is not created by players but by devs, yes when they make the 2 endgame instances PW \ Makarma with timer you need some requirements in order to succeed sorry but i prefer be called an elitist and do a run in PW in 15 mins than be there 3hrs because people dont know what to do, dont know how to dps its not fair for me to be there 3hrs being geared knowing what to do for someone that doesnt know anything about it. I went to HT with my alt on the other day we had a cleric and a templar in Lakrum gear we been there almost 2 hours untill both of them leave since none of them were able to do their job and suddently 1try with a different cleric and voila we finish that really easy, some people dont even bother to watch a guide to know what to do and harm the others by making them stay hours on instances that should be done in minutes so next time people start being "elitist" so they dont waste time. I disagree with people getting free ultimates on events we will see alot people with gear and no knowledge about the instances that will waste others people time and thats not cool at all. If you have issues finding a group to do instances create your own party , i only started having a PW\Makarma group when i decided to create my own group\ally or else also nobody would take me for anything.
You already have your solution: It's gear. The game is dominated by its gear treadmill. Nothing else. Sure, there probably are some weird people who just won't understand stuff, but these have to be a very rare exception since Aions PvE content is just laughable. If I compare the PvE-content in Aion with several other games, Aion-PvE is essentially made for bots.
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Ppl against this sound to me like they never played pve before in this game
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Ppl against this sound to me like they never played pve before in this game
and the people wants it sounds like they just want a free pass on even running the instances 🙄
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then dont ask for daevanion skills since u get them on the instance too
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So "elitists" complain that there are people with gear that don't know how to run instances, so they don't waste time with new players, yet they are probably the same "elitists" who sold them gear in the first place to make more wealth.
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And also I dont know why "elitists" are against the flower event rewarding with red pve selectable armour box since ppl have to do their instances and even prometun to get the flowers.And even if u are so pro and imba and mlg u will be able to grab something else valuable than pve box,I dont know ,u call ur self elitists and u dont want the rest of ppl to get one of the item they miss,pve is for chill,if u want to tryhard go pvp and post ur wins on fb
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Outside of the birthday event, I have to say the events have been trash.
Don't get me wrong, I could not care less if you personally got useful things out of events, I haven't. And frankly I don't care if you get things out of events, because that doesn't help me in any way at all.
And yes, you SHOULD rank events based upon personal items you get out of them, not based upon what other people get from them.We have quite a few people who, thanks to the events are now running in Kaisinel, a lot of people have legendary forms and I'm still in a hybrid ancient form that's not even useful outside of movement speed.
When will we get an event where even the unluckiest person in the world can get their legendary transformation?
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Display MoreOutside of the birthday event, I have to say the events have been trash.
Don't get me wrong, I could not care less if you personally got useful things out of events, I haven't. And frankly I don't care if you get things out of events, because that doesn't help me in any way at all.
And yes, you SHOULD rank events based upon personal items you get out of them, not based upon what other people get from them.We have quite a few people who, thanks to the events are now running in Kaisinel, a lot of people have legendary forms and I'm still in a hybrid ancient form that's not even useful outside of movement speed.
When will we get an event where even the unluckiest person in the world can get their legendary transformation?
I am one of the people that have actually critisized the company and the events PLANNING but i also have been part of the people that have been fortune in past to be lucky based on rewards from events and others havent.THATS part of the event not everyone can be ''happy'',some people will be satisfied some not i dont even remember an event BESIDES the Fight Daeva(gathering points event) that everyone has been happy,i am salty too on some occassions but u are beyond that.Take whatever is given if they improve give them thumbs up,which u actually EVEN for birthday event didn't or if they do bad job ok give them thumbs down BUT u cannot demand an event that can give equal to all,what timeline has shown to us is an event will be separated to p2w and f2p not only balance and sometimes winning one side more but again u cant demand equal rewards and happiness for players.Also to close the fact that some1 get legendary transformation AT least proves that even the slightest chance exist that it drops,cause could have been worst never to be seen,which btw has happened in past events for an item to be so rare that noone has seen it drop.
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These forums exist to criticize GameForge.
Without excessive criticism they do absolutely no action, and with excessive criticism they take minor actions.
As has been proven with the LUNA weekly instance nerf.
My word stands, the events are NOT as good as lucky players make them out to be.
The events MUST be criticized by the unlucky players, or else nothing will ever, ever change.
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then dont ask for daevanion skills since u get them on the instance too
if you are talking to me then omegalul when did I ask that? pls read carefully
So "elitists" complain that there are people with gear that don't know how to run instances, so they don't waste time with new players, yet they are probably the same "elitists" who sold them gear in the first place to make more wealth.
Actually I haven't seen any drop seller in asmo deyla so idk what you are talking about lols As for me and some of the friends I know we share drops and exchange to whoever needs them from group to group so yea how about people actually start doing shit instead of crying and accusing people. You talked like you know everyone and what they do smh
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So "elitists" complain that there are people with gear that don't know how to run instances, so they don't waste time with new players, yet they are probably the same "elitists" who sold them gear in the first place to make more wealth.
Actually I haven't seen any drop seller in asmo deyla so idk what you are talking about lols As for me and some of the friends I know we share drops and exchange to whoever needs them from group to group so yea how about people actually start doing shit instead of crying and accusing people. You talked like you know everyone and what they do smh
On peak hours there is like an ultimate item sale every 5-10 minutes in lfg chat. Your experience is not the only one in this game. lolz
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then dont ask for daevanion skills since u get them on the instance too
if you are talking to me then omegalul when did I ask that? pls read carefully
Ppl are asking for just 1 selectable box with red gear and u are like : go do the instance,so in the same way ,why people are asking for daeva skill box since u can drop it EASIER ????
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then dont ask for daevanion skills since u get them on the instance too
if you are talking to me then omegalul when did I ask that? pls read carefully
Ppl are asking for just 1 selectable box with red gear and u are like : go do the instance,so in the same way ,why people are asking for daeva skill box since u can drop it EASIER ????
Because those daeva skill boxes they may ask can't be traded but currently the ultimate pve gear can be sold for lots of GP. So it's profitable for the ones selling them to keep it going.
