It's sad to see Galeas leave Aion, he was always prepared to communicate on the forums so I hope his successor will be the same. He was more tolerant and understanding than his predecessor Blackvelvet who surrounded herself with mods and will be hard to replace.
I wish him luck and success in his new position.
ah that sounds good mew, tradable but not in the auction house.
I remember the bots very well so I can understand the caution, they are a pain but sometimes useful for keeping the Ah stocked.
WoW will need to read your posts with premium and battle passes a few times!
I was very impressed with GF's gold pack that I used to buy to sell for kinah, I justified it by helping those who could least afford it.
So my next question, without being able to trade Seil aura, is there anything that I can trade from the shop for kinah?
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Display MoreOld veteran trying to get my head around Classic F2p vs P2w
Is siel aura like a gold pack tradable on the brokers, can you
you even trade without one?
What is best about a deavas pack to pay an extra 20 euro/month.
Will it be free to play or subscription model?
I have done a search but can't find a link.
It's a new model where you pay for both a sub (siel, not tradeable or sellable) and at the same time p2w (monthly, -per char-) where you get a lot of stuff that was nerfed or removed from drop rates.
Thanks Shira, I'm amazed to see you are still here.
So to clarify it's not free to play, players will have to buy a siel aura as a 10 euro monthly subscription with the option of another 20 euro P2w pack?
Old veteran trying to get my head around Classic F2p vs P2w
Is siel aura like a gold pack tradable on the brokers, can you
you even trade without one?
What is best about a deavas pack to pay an extra 20 euro/month.
Will it be free to play or subscription model?
I have done a search but can't find a link.
Got a new pc and will give Classic a try in 6 days.
Will there be a separate classic client download?
Better to install now or wait?
Hi y'all
The last time I was here was a few years back and every other poster was asking for Aion Classic to return, so I am not surprised that they are going to release it, I am more surprised that Galeas is still the community manager correcting and answering player's comments. 
Even the Korean devs support it and in doing so is an admission that they may have lost their way with the live version.
It will last as long as they can make money and that will depend if enough players try it and stay to form a profitable international community.
Aion will always be a Classic, best not to write it off just yet. 
why does everything has to do with insane long term goals? what was the point of putting new craftable gear in to the game, when it takes months if not years to farm 192x Source of Guarding ? either make it 100% drop or if it drops like 3-5 of them
Ah, it's what the Koreans do, even though we now have easy newb exp, they made sure we have to grind our rolocks off to get the new 7.7 items.
Next patch maybe collect oranges and bananas. 
Before you think it's all NCSoft, GF also made sure in 7.0+ that drops were nerfed and that epic loot is not enough to encourage cash shop usage.
Aion EU F2P has become a P2W grind, hope you enjoy.
Any new feature needs to pass the fun test, Koreans have no idea what western players like and probably don't care.
Aion never used to be like this, GF should bring back their EU support features a.s.a.p.
7.7 reminds me of a scrap dealer collecting stuff, recycling old and hoping with RNG to make something better!
If they had not taken Aion in the wrong direction, there would be no need for a classic.
Well getting this new PVP gear looks like it will be a real grind, is it worth the effort for 5% and no sign of 8.0?
Really enjoying auto-hunt feature so it might relieve the pain a bit.
As for making an alt a necessity to store extra collection items is not my idea how Aion should be but the best of luck to those who give it a try.
I don't think so. They just don't know what to invent anymore to complexify the game, imo.
Wrong! In 7.7 NCSoft devs invented the worst massively complex Aion item collection feature with 465 items!!! and even a Lumiel's transformation machine for obsolete items.
They have finally lost the plot completely, do they call that fun?
What I want to know is why the devs and GF went way off track in all the 7.... patches? They even left new players with no way to obtain things.
What's going on, is it somethings to do with Aion2 or mobile compatibility?
Galeas or any other mod whats gonna happen with titancoins etc...from our inventory? they gonna get converted into insignias of exp? or they dissapear? we need consume them?
OMG only a couple of months away and get all the insignias of exp we can for rewards and now another change!!??
Players don't want their daily routines interrupted with lots of patch/reward changes or grind/loot U-turns unless they are very simple to obtain without using valuable inventory space.
NCSoft /GF need to stick to one road map so that everyone knows what they should be doing, If NCSoft/GF keep making changes at the current rate it will have a bad effect on playing populations, if not already.
btw. Feeling lost..anyone know what are players having to collect now?
Whatever happened to simple drops?
which one ? there is only about 0.001% what can be described as a "drop" ...
"Add items to your collection to earn rewards. There are three classes in the item collection: Normal, Large and Valuable. You get bigger rewards, the more collections you amass in each class."
And then ? Does the item not disappear from the inventory?
Why should you do that if you don't have it in your inventorytwo or even three times?
Gameforge are talking about more collections or whatever, they might be surprised at how many are now in-game!
Trade in x=amount for a reward.
Did anyone list them all?
Inventories or warehouses are already full, not really space for auto-loot.
These are real practical game issues imo.
Display MoreBefore anyone gets too excited the NCSoft announcement is for a Korean Classic 1.5 server to be released in korea on 11/11 with a pay monthly subscription which includes an hour a day free or 24 hours in the first week.
So far there is not a word about an official English Classic version from GF or NCWest so until that happens it is pure speculation if it will happen and when. If it happens at all it probably won't be until next year.
By the way some of us were playing Aion before GF got their EU licience and our accounts were transferred to them but I don't know what version that was at the time?
it was in 2011 GF took over running Aion and I believe it was patch 2.5
as I said before in posts the version they are to release with classic server is earlier and NCwest was running it.
GF would not need to re translate a classic server as NCsoft west would still have the code and patch before GF took over, they don't just delete patches even if someone takes over running it, all Code is kept for each patch, I believe also there would be a backup of each patch database saved.
Big companies like NCsoft would never just delete older code or translations.
So if Aion EU is going to have a classic server and Gf is going to run it then all NCsoft would need to do is send the patch over to GF, i would say GF would need to do some work on it to link it to there website and shop etc but it would not need a full translation.
That's if NCsoft west is willing to send the translated patch which i could see not reason for them not to allow this.
Or maybe NCsoft would take control of running a classic server for EU and take all the subs they would not need to do work as the translation would already be there, after all the translation was the main reason NCsoft handed running EU over to GF as it took to long to translate.
NCSoft or NCWest won't release on Gameforge's EU area.
GF will release a Classic because they don't want players making accounts elsewhere having any negative impact on current server populations which will happen. There will be some German/Franco translations for 1.5 unless they launch with 2.7+
Now that Korea will be launching a Classic on 11/11 it is too big an event to ignore . The pressure to launch in English, German and/or French will be immense.
I agree something has to be done, dungeons are a good start, but i think they should up the rate a little on world drops as right now drop rate is so low its a joke.
***^^This^^****
They totally messed up 7.0 updates with nerfing and adding more and more things that need heavy grind to collect. (very confusing to new players)
7.7 preview :
"Add items to your collection to earn rewards. There are three classes in the item collection: Normal, Large and Valuable. You get bigger rewards, the more collections you amass in each class."
Whatever happened to simple drops?
And still the monetization model was good running for Gameforge and customers buyed the p2w-rng-boxes like crazy
A few whales maybe which are exactly who GF are targeting, not the playing majority.
We are talking about a Classic server with less RNG/P2W that existed when GF first launched and populations were much higher. They were also very careful to maintain F2P by not having cash shop items that couldn't be attained in game.
If everyone just used a gold pack each month would provide revenue similar to a subscription model, with less greed G/F might make the games in-game goals more achievable and less RNG cash shop items that fail after purchase, thus providing an altogether better platform & experience for cash shop users and EU Aion players a like..
Quite honestly, this is all speculation but if GF do launch a Classic server don't be surprised if it does have different business model at least for the first year or so.
Still waiting on a LOGICAL argument why Gameforge should dispense on a good running monetization model.......
Quite simply your so called good running monetization model turned the game into a P2W casino.
The last chance any players had for achieving their goals was Epic Loot that turned out to be an epic joke...
Give me a single LOGICAL reason why Gameforge should monetize a classic server in any other way like they successfully did last 8 years...…
That's a question of personal opinion, some would argue that was the start of the downfall, in any event as others have mentioned NCSoft will have a say and influence depending on how much they want to do for international markets and their individual business models.
2.7 or just before.
So that means a 1.5 Classic would be totally un-localized for EU so GF would need to do it again for EU. Can you see them investing or doing that again after cutting back on the current version?
From a cost perspective it would make a lot of sense to have just one English international Classic version.
