Posts by Rastekkel

  • Aion Classic Discussion

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    I'm not suggesting jack shit. That person said it's not the publishers fault and that they have no control over monetization. And that's just objectively wrong.

    No i did not :) You clearly didnt read or understood my Post.


    Quote from Rastekkel

    I don't really care about a company wanting to make money, it should be obvious that that is the intent. But the greed has gone to extreme levels. They don't treed their games like games, but like casino's to exploit the weakness within people.

    But Nc-Soft does it too!!! And it´s even worse under them. So if you blame Gameforge you HAVE to blame Nc aswell.

    I do. And I quit playing classic NA accordingly.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

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    It's NCsofts fault when Gameforge decides to also put the kinah candy in the cash shop. It's also NCsofts fault when Gameforge decides to price the season pass at 30 euro's on top of a 15 euro sub.

    You mean if Gameforge ever release classic they should just ignore the monetization system the game was reworked for by NCSoft and go with something else?

    Something like f2p, or monthly sub and no BP/P2W Shop like suggested by some Internet Experts?

    I'm not suggesting jack shit. That person said it's not the publishers fault and that they have no control over monetization. And that's just objectively wrong.


    The game was not reworked to have kinah candies. They just threw that on top of it, breaking the economy from the get-go.


    I don't really care about a company wanting to make money, it should be obvious that that is the intent. But the greed has gone to extreme levels. They don't treed their games like games, but like casino's to exploit the weakness within people.


    You know what I realized while writing this reply? A sub + season pass to Aion classic costs the same as buying New World outright. Please explain to me how that makes any sense.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    Right, right.


    It's NCsofts fault when Gameforge decides to also put the kinah candy in the cash shop. It's also NCsofts fault when Gameforge decides to price the season pass at 30 euro's on top of a 15 euro sub.


    Right.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    "Super populated" is a bit of stretch mate.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    If it's pay 2 win it's pay 2 win. You don't like to hear it because you like to play this game. It's a defensive mechanism to defend the thing you like to play. Doesn't make it any less pay 2 win though. But rest assured, most people have quit, and many more will quit. You'll just hop to the next pay 2 win game and tell people there the same thing without ever wondering why your game never gains any momentum.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

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    wow aion classic has been very successful!


    i think the hype is over xD

    You should see and compare it to NA retail:


    Pretty sure EU classic would do bonkers, especially if they made it F2P/Gold pack (as much as I despise that system). The EU Aion community seems to be much larger.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

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    Are aion classic enjoyers like an secret underground group or something?

    I tried to check google trends, youtube views stats, reddit and bunch other publicly available sources to check how much popularity aion classic have and I really fail to see them :/

    Are they're like hiding somewhere, idk in the darkweb, or something?

    I always face manifestations of intolerance towards retail version, when I post guides on Reddit. A lot of classic fans there think, that the whole AION section on this web resource belongs to them.
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    That's because the vast majority of retail players have quit. They quit because they reached their limit. You're just the last minority still playing/holding on. And that's totally fine, if you enjoy this game for what it is, all power to you.


    But it's quite simple. This game is 10 years old now and has had millions of players who, at some point, have played and quit this game. There's a huge audience of players that might want to give the old vanilla game another shot.


    You've seen the same happen with Oldschool Runescape and Classic WoW. The vanilla counterparts outperform the retail game. You see the exact same happen with classic aion vs retail aion in America. It's night and day.


    It's a whole different discussion as to why that is. Imho it's the same old story. Game has gone increasingly P2W, has it's content stripped for monetary gains and loses almost all it's playerbase over the years. Classic version comes out? Nostalgia kicks in and that massive audience is ready to give classic a shot. And where Blizzard and Jagex do a far more serious job trying to keep that audience. With korean publishers it looks far more like a move to just cash in on nostalgia in the short-term.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

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    That's what makes Classic better. You run to your instance... your risk getting ganked by the enemy

    Oh no, low iq zergers won't be able to stop pve players from doing content they enjoy if they won't have to run across the map to enter an instance, yikes.

    So uh, have you considered not playing classic and just join the other 20 people sitting afk in retail opening lootboxes and pulling the lever for a lucky chance to win some +15 weapon chest? Why care so much about classic if you clearly have no interest in it. It can't kill retail, the few players there are so deeply invested nothing will move them away, don't worry.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    95 ping open world, 110 in sieges from the Netherlands, it's not bad at all.. You're right about siege times. But don't forget, the more hours EU players put in on NA servers, the less likely they will make the switch to EU. That's why it's a shame Gameforge is stuck on "technical" difficulties.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    Reading your story I can see a pattern in your thinking. You think that being able to catch up to swipers in days/weeks/months means the game is not pay to win.


    Let me be very blunt. You are grossly overestimating how close you are to the swipers. You're not even close. A swiper is not sitting still waiting for you to catch up. You're playing an MMO.


    You saying some are having troubles selling candies means literally nothing. If my pocket is deep enough I'll just undercut sellers and people will buy them from me. There is no magical cap, this doesn't just suddenly stop. There's a reason people are sitting with 500+ candy's on an alt in Panda.


    It confuses me how you can't see that the current season pass isn't P2W. Sure, literally swiping for coin gear is convenient. Swiping for enchant stones is very convenient. Straight up buying the best PVP Title is incredibly convenient.


    You know what getting all those things do other then it being "convienent"? It means you outperform people who don't buy it, and you do it quicker. You get to spend all your time/kinah/ap on the things that are most important while the rest of us is selling every item they obtain to get some of that kinah. With that gear the grind for AP starts way ahead of everbody else. They will get AP gear incredibly fast. You. will. not. You think you will, but you won't.


    Your advice on the wings is just the same excuse. You can obtain some wings from a level 45 quest makes you think that buying gold wings on day 1 is not P2W. I don't understand how, but I can see the pattern in your logic so this doesn't surprise me.


    I'm loving the game, but I don't feel the need to use any excuse to downplay the incredible amount of P2W that we got from the get-go. Not that high on copium.


    Tip; go rifting for a few hours and then come back to me. You will know very quickly who swiped and who didn't.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

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    Still waiting for classic in EU as I refuse to play assassin with 100+ms

    But, from what I saw people are making mountains out of a molehill. These candies sold at the npc are gonna give you an advantage till what? Level 25? Then after that people can get way more money than that by simply playing.

    And even then, what are you even gonna buy at broker before lvl 25 that you can't get yourself in a few mins?

    The most sensitive point imo is the AP. They should never sell unlimited amount of AP. Some crowns through battle pass is fine as we had VR giving crowns back then, but direct purchase of unlimited AP would kill the classic experience.

    People are mad because it's a 15 dollar subscription, with a 30 dollar p2w season pass, gold wings for 7.50 and an unlimited supply of kinah through buying candy's in the cash shop.


    The amount of people that say "bro it's not that bad" that already threw over 100 dollars on a classic relaunch just to get an advantage is baffeling to me. You can tell me "it's not that bad", that's what retail players did too, look where that got them. Everybody has a breaking point, you do too (hopefully).

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    They obviously won't. We're playing an MMORPG with a heavy focus on "competitive" pvp. Early advantages don't diminish, it's quite the opposite, the gap only get's bigger.


    Thinking a strong advantage in the first 7 days will just magicly diminish is wishfull thinking.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    We're barely a week in and it's already quite noticable in PvP. The P2W folks are running around in gold coin gear, fully decked out with the best manastones, proper combines and enchants on the weapons while the rest is a mix of white/green/blue gear with nothing socketed/enchanted.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    It's quite the opposite. The majority of these whales are definatly not rich people. I've seen too many examples of this not being the case.


    Also, the people saying that kinah isn't important in classic Aion are either delusional, high on copium or fully invested into kinah buying.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    It all depends on the definitition of "working" I guess. If we talk about shor-term financial gains then yes, it sure is working.


    If we're talking about customer satisfaction and longterm healthy playerbases (I'd say the pillar of any MMORPG) it's failing miserably.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    You say "it works" but does it really? Player numbers on retail servers are at an all time low. What do you think will happen when the free week on classic ends. That everybody will just be content with P2W mechanics and happily pay that 15/20 dollar sub? I doubt it...

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    Amidst all the uproar over the candy's people seem to forget you can also get crazy good wings straight from the cash shop.


    20 dollar sub, 30 dollar season pass, candy's for kinah and best wings that will cost non-swiping players up to 10mill kinah.


    It's a lovely game but damn they are cashing in hard on nostalgia.

  • 28.10.2020 on Korea - Classic Server Discussions

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    The problem is this

    https://forums.aiononline.com/…n-classic-siege-schedule/

    as foreseen... aion players have jobs now and disagree over siege times.

    idk why big brain ncsoft doesn't have one server west coast and one east coast that can work for eu players too. opportunity to get more eu players thrown away. they literally have diff time zones in every other game in na under ncsoft... this time they skipped over this detail. or perhaps they did not expect a huge influx of players?

    Because they know the moment GF and russian publisher release their classic servers, people will leave.

    That all depends on if, when and how Gameforge implements their version of classic.

  • 28.10.2020 on Korea - Classic Server Discussions

    Quote from NekoMujuuryoku

    what's sad is that many people don't want a classic server in europe because they don't trust anymore gf and it's not even ncsoft the problem it's gf they don't trust...


    Because I would like to know if gf at least admits to having made mistakes or not? maybe you can answer at this question Galeas do you think that gf has made mistakes in the past? (if yes which)

    Because I've never seen gf admit to making mistakes (maybe im blind)

    They can always decide to win our trust back. Implement a proper subscription model with only cosmetics in a cash shop and I'll be down to play in EU. I'm already looking at that deava pass over in NA being like, this will just be the next P2W implementation on top of a 15 euro a month sub. The greed is just too severe.


    Leave the economy alone as much as possible. No consumes/scrolls/titles/candy's with the swipe of a credit card. That should be earned through playing the game.