Posts by Behold

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    Prior to the 6.0 the shop LITERALLY had the elite upgrade stones (APES & Upgrade Serums) which were both expensive and scarce in the game. You had to pay a good sum to get your accessories to +7 or 8 and same with the first wave of +20 items. I wouldn't really have much to say if you actually ignore that fact alone and think that that the current p2w factor is denser than that of the prior patches.


    Hence my point about putting kaisinel would get reinforced. If you are complaining about the current shape of the aion-shop it will mean that nothing will ever satisfy you, so they may as well put the kaisinel up there and make money, its not like you can get more 'unsatisfied'.

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    This is the perfect testament how unsaturated the certain part of the community ican be. P2w is at an all times low (ever since 4.9), there is an event that is LITERALLY giving you a free legendary contract, and it is an event that can't be abused easily, but it's still not enough. The ultimate stones are not on the shop but rather in the magical morph list, the fragments are not on the shop.


    The costume/skin tab alone has 33 different skins (some are even sets) , even emotes are on the shops when they should be on an event. But noo... that does not seem to be enough for the likes of you, who got the audacity to say all of these.


    Honestly if you are complaining about the current shape of the aion-shop then I don't get why they dont just put the legendary contracts up there or even the kaisinel, you people will still be whining about it with no eventuality, at least GF will make money and those who can afford them will be happy. Anyhow, hopefully we will get all of that on the card lottery of this year.

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    I can easily say that the shop is being managed quite well. Lots of skins, the rare ones are not there obviously and we even had a bundle for the shop food and pots and what not.


    The wheel price could be a bit lower and we can have levels on it (like the wheel of Metin2) it would provide a huge incentive for people to actually play on it and we can have wheel-exclusive items there like %100 pot or the pvp/pve ascension jams or 1 week bitter ice blessing or what not.

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    115 Aion Coins for 1 legendary stone seems a bit much. Might I suggest the person who decides those to take a look at the broker prices ?


    Oh and can we get Fragment of the Fighting Spirit on the shop please ? Without any limitation ofc

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    Quote from Behold

    Can we please get a bundle for the:

    1. %20 pot [Mysterious Recovery Serum Box (100 pieces)]
    2. The shop food [Mysterious Nourishment Box (30 pieces)]

    The reasons are mentioned above



    Can we also get the Fragment of the Fighting Spirit on the shop again ? (preferably in 100x bundles)


    It's great to see the concept of botting/autohunting get culled by the new drop rate in lakrum and the difficulty of the mobs in the new map dumaha. But with them out of the picture obtaining the highly coveted 'Fragment of the Fighting Spirit' has gotten much more costly due to the rising prices of the raw materials as the bots that farmed them had their drops taken away.

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    I think someone wrote it before but;


    Can we please get a bundle for the:

    1. %20 pot [Mysterious Recovery Serum Box (100 pieces)]
    2. The shop food [Mysterious Nourishment Box (30 pieces)]

    Reasoning:


    They are untradable items so those of us who are selling coins are bound by the daily 5 gift limits, meaning that only a certain amount could be supplied to the non-paying players. Having those items in bundles could certainly enable more non-paying players to have easier access to them thru the aion coin sellers.


    At the end I see it as a win-win for everyone. More coins sold & more people have easier access to the best pot and the best food in the game.

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    wow, seems like you read half of the posts and understood half of that half.

    "it's value is created artificially" (yeah... that concept is a bit above your level, dont try to sound smart)


    :scensored:


    Auction coming again would certainly be good.


    Don't mention race/skin colour on this forum.

    Senpai

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    Lemonzz honestly you seem like a guy who thinks that has it all figured out in a delusional way. I mean there is a video material of 65+15k coins being resulted in a 2 legendary transformations as opposed to the 4k for 1 and you are still yapping like there is no tomorrow as to how that is not cheap.

    I mean... just like the other guy your mind seems blindly set. Neither facts nor stats will change it.


    "The cheap Turkish coins" is a myth and I've personally debunked it and its quite easy (calculate the amount of coins that the minimum wage gets in Turkey & Germany). People don't earn in Euros in Turkey, you people seem to forget that all the time.


    Just like in every patch the the value of the items decay over time, its what makes Aion really good as opposed to some other MMORPG's


    You are not realizing the irony that you are setting with saying "50 euros is a decent price", the entire argument of 200 euros being too much could be said about the 50 euros as well.

    @rest: guys dont get into senseless word-plays when you run out of arguments. Do I really have to say "It's incredibly cheap as opposed to the average price of a legendary contract in Aion-EU-2019" everytime ?


    Their usage, stats, demand in game is irrelevant, what matters here is that the average cost of getting one thru generic and conventional methods compared to getting it directly for 4k coins in the aforementioned event.

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    population is irrelevant but its still not cheap - thats an ironic contradiction

    linking a video of 1300 contracts opening and their combination result as a direct proof of the rates only to be disregarded... da hell ????

    They are the same item so its not like 2 different brands, its like buying a ferrari for 200k euros and buying THE EXACT SAME ferrari for 20k euros and not calling it "incredibly cheap"


    anyhow your mind seems set, there isn't really any point of this whole thing


    eh... at least nobody can say I didn't try reasoning.

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    The world population is irrelevant here. Not even the western population is relevant here. Unlocking a level or component of a video game with real money is not something that you 'need' in your life, its borderline luxury, so it's price is irrelevant to the real world commodities. If you don't like the price then don't buy it.


    Yet this is the "shop discussion" thread. If you are an absolute non-shopper then you shouldn't be here. But I will indulge you nonetheless


    here take a look, do the math



    This is the generic way of getting a legendary transformation


    65k(+15k) coins for 2 legendary forms. That is literally 10 times the price. Yet you are trying to fool people here with saying that getting something %90 cheaper isnt "incredibly cheaper" and that the whole event was bad. Lemme guess you wanted that item for free ?

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    Whether you like it or not, it was a hugely successful event on almost all aspects. Both the LFG chat and the legion chat was swarming with things about the event. It had everyone engaged in it.


    Yet:

    -Those who wanted to buy %500 scrolls got them at a good price.

    -Those who had the budget for ancient for got them at a good price (if they didnt already have them)

    -We got the rare item of daevanion essence (those gave a damn about it)

    -Most importantly EVERYONE had the chance of buying an incredibly cheap legendary contract.


    I honestly wonder if the hate towards it is actually as irrational as I reckon.


    So, for the next one we could have:


    -Less ambiguity on quantity of the items (such as the fighting spirit fragment)

    -Better priced legendary pvp/pve stones

    -Rare and valuable skins (like a fire & water dragon skins)

    -Some motions could be nice

    -Makarna weapon box (either to the auction or to the shugo game)

    -Custom sale bundles (like 200 Transparency Scroll could start from 200 coins and can go down to 100 coins)

    -Daevanion Wisdom Insignia

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    Galeas


    Just as the fate of most of the skilled politicians, every average Joe thinks that they can do their job better than them (in reality they cant), I have to say that your fate seems similar to that of theirs. I reckon most people here have foolish and senseless ideas as to how they can run this game and it's market better than the current administration, whereas in reality they wouldn't have a single clue as to what to do.


    I gotta say I am baffled as how lucrative and fruitful this Auction event was. Granted that some of the prices of the items did not seem to make sense but overall it was an exceptional event that made the rare items available to players at a reasonable price. Especially the %500 craft scroll for 100 coins was indeed in fact a good price on a rare item. Same with the daevanion essence. Not to mention the jewel of the auction The Legendary Contract, which by the way had a really prudent price for a single RNG.


    One last thing was how engaged the players were on the event, on the prices, on the availability meter or what will be the last price of it all or who got how many of a certain item before they ran out and all. It wasn't an event for the whales, or the Alt-moms or the no-lifers, it was for everyone who wanted to take part in it. I have to say well done.

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    Yes I do, at least for the better part of a year and yes I am aware of it. Yet at the same time people in Turkey make significantly less money than the people in Europe, especially the German speaking ones. A simple comparison of the minimum wages should reveal the logic behind having differnt prices.


    At the end the actual price that we pay in contrast to to the living standards of our countries tilt in the opposite way .


    The minimum wage of 2000 liras / 300 euros in Turkey gets you around 18k coins (300 lira for 2.5k) and minimum wage 1400 euros in Germany gets you easily more than 25k (100 euros for 2k). So you tell me at the end.

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    The people who have +12 skills either farm the books themselves or buy them. In my case (in the case of the most of the spenders also) buying books is the easiest way to go at it, meaning that it creates another fairly easy and effortless source of kinah for the non-spenders.


    What feedback are on about exactly ? Overwhelming majority of the whales don’t even communicate on any of the mediums, and some whales simply live in their bubble. I am pretty much one of the very few whales who are vocal and honest about their spendings.


    Surely having those items in game would be great, I had advocated it previously but putting them in-game is simply a bad business move for GameForge, so I am trying to get them to meet us in the middle.


    Raizel pretty sure it would’ve been detected and fixed by now if the ‘tooltip’ of the skill displayed a different cooldown than the actual cooldown.


    Psycho its a modest price, asking for it to be on the shop for 99ac would simply be ridiculous. It’s a rare item and the final prize of a lootbox and it’s not an item for everyone.

  • Weekly Shop Discussion

    15TAN the item that I want on the shop is already on it, I simply want it to be there in a more direct fashion. The item itself doesn’t even affect the gameplay at a proper level to substantiate this enmity towards it. A good and productive usage of it would only guarantee an increase of a dmg of a skill by 1-2% or reduce the cool down of another by 3-4 seconds at max. Yet you somehow think that this is “game-braking.” Yet you don’t even need hundreds, 10 would be fairly enough.


    Honestly, unless you studied “marketing in online games” I wouldn’t really consider you as a reliable source on how and what ‘whales’ buy. Cuz you definitely are not one of them.


    I still root for the item to appear on the shop as an item itself with a modest price.

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    Look I do want the [Rune] Daevanion Essence, but I wont fish for them in a loot box.


    Put them on a fixed price of 499 ac for 1 at least, so aiming for them could be done properly.