has there ever been an official statement that the low drop rate is supposed to fight bots?
Nope but they didnt make any statement about drops, but drops from elite mobs are terrible. Zerooooo!
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Siel
NA: 200% XP, 150% Kinah, 150% AP (from pvp/quests/relics turn in, everything)
Hello,
thats simply a business decision. NA also had different bonuses at the beginning of classic, but raised it after a time to make it more appealing. In my oppinion they did it after they had a huge player loss.
XP from quests/campaigns:
All the quests and campaigns in EU give much lower XP
You do the mistake to compare different versions of the game. NCSoft KR did multiple changes of certain values of the livespan of aion classic. The leveling-phase got speed up more and more in later patches. Thats why other regions, with a never version of AION Classic, have different settings here. If you would compare the 2.4 settings/xp rewards for the quests they would be the same like ours.
XP needed to level:
The exp needed to level is much higher in EU, for example to get out of Poeta you need a boring grind for 1-2 hours after doing all the campaigns, what's the point of this?? Level 48-50 the same, 53-55 the same. This is very discouraging towards leveling alt characters.
Thats someting GF changed, yes. GF started with a x1.5 higher XP curve and this change is still live for AION Classic 2.0. This might be changed in the future, but I am not able to tell you if and when.
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Now this is disgusting, (just like back in retail) EU droprates are insanely low.
In NA you drop stormwing wings almost every run, sometimes 3-5 eternals in one run, decent rate of weapons, in EU.. you are lucky to see 1 eternal part in a few runs and almost no golds.
Anuhart boss (last one before Taha) in Dark Poeta, in NA it drops the gold sword and/or belt every time, I haven't seen that even once in EU yet.
Lower Udas: accessories/armor/weapons are almost non-existent, in NA you drop a gold weapon almost every run, sometimes along golden accessories. The kinah box also has a lot more.
Relics: KKM/ESO are almost a waste of time with the ridiculous drops.ARENAS:
50% more insigniasI can just say that we have the original rates of AION 2.4, which were provided by NCSoft KR and they were the same for them in this patch. I don't know if this is the same issue that we compare two different versions of the game here, or if NA has indeed different rates than the ones the developer intedended (NCoft KR).
Overall it is important to compare our version with the same version Korea had. Comparing to an other overseas region, like NA, makes no sence in this context, since some settings can be changed for each region like we did with the XP curve. Who knows if they requested higher rates or have a event running for their drops.
The examples you provided were not changed in anyway by GF and are the default values.
~ Sparx ~
PS: If you check the NA Forums you will see more or less the same complains about the overall droprate. I am checking their forum regulary aswell.
You are partialy right only.
EU had ok rates before gelk/ingi, actualy it still has ok rates for under 50 content.
I ll try to explain on UT/LUT, those rates that we curently have are korean 2.4, elite mobs in UT/LUT drops nothing, mostly gray 1k worth items, white gear wich sells for 100k lets say and mobs drops 3k kinah. That kinah drop is not from each mob wich singnals that rates are pretty low, proly its ment to counter bots but side effect is that game feels not rewarding and population of players will reduce for sure.
We had this scenario when 2.4 came to NA, same rates as in EU, people quit. Then Nsoft saw and made 10x better drops, mobs were droping not 3k then 30k kinah, you could see alot of white stones, white sellable gear, like 5 green manastones per UT clear, like 2-3 fabled drops. People came back to game and was very alive before 2.5 wich rewerted drops and game died.
EU server economy is in big trubles cuz of drop rates and also bad mistake of making siege rewards untreadable, instead of small inflation wich is normaln with new patch we are facing deflation.
So basicly we have decent drop rates for under 50 lvls and korean "antibot" rates for 55. We will face server merge pretty sooon if GF doesnt fix it. And if they implement 2.5 with korean rates game will be in serious problems.
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Well I suggest you to get used on bots, becouse there will be even more. I reported some but never saw them banned. So solution is to farm them for ap 😆
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Something is fishy about this.
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Guard are only one of the benefits! Ofc they are cca 20k ap/h if you want to farm and loads of stigma shards, particly 3-4k kinah per guard.
But there are plenty of benefits, for example dredge gives 7k raw ap and lower forts gives aprox 6k ap in relics per run and 300k raw kina plus alot worthy mats and gear.
Any mob or rep quest you touch rewards you with pure gold.
He complained about dredge, siege mistakes etc. I only wanted to explain to him that he doesnt know as much as he thinks that he knows and he is calling others noobs.
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in PvP Elyos are winning since day 1, getting more AP from dred bc 90% winrate, having fat archon PvP gear, half of Elyos players on the server are spending most of their day camping in Asmodae with their entire legion.
Almost all the skilled PvP players picked Elyos race.
Doing dred as Asmo is like....you'll have a story to tell at the end of it.
Asmo tanks tend to mark the Ely cleric or chanter with 1. (instead of giving them ZZZ and putting the 1 on cloth, then leather)
On siege, our Asmo alliance leaders put the kisks in a fort that is going to be attacked by Elys instead of somewhere near where we attack. If they even HAVE an alliance kisk....
We don't get functional groups,classes in siege partys are a wildcard. If there are even 6 people ONLINE in the party.
People can't handle their mana. I have a mana heal so I pay attention to the partys mana bar.
They don't use mana treatment or pots whatsoever, Dux is at 80% and they are out of mana and sit down to rest.
They are inefficient and don't know the techniques to maximize their damage output.
I do more DPS as a support chanter than a full DPS ranger. That should not be possible.
Unfortunate for us few good Asmo players to be weighted down by the mass of noobshits.
Is it the same for Atreia server??
Because when I enter quick dred bc it's too late and I think I ain't find a party for dred that late, then I get 5 Asmos from Atreia server in my dred, and they are even worse then our noobshits from Tahabata, we don't even make it to the prison cells for the daily quests.
Which leads me to assume that Asmos are the losing faction on both classic servers.
And becouse of it you call people noobs?
Ok, let me introduce you as pro what do you do wrong!
You said you have problems with dredg wich means you are max lvl or close to wich is not pro move. If you knew anything you would have stayed 40 to gear that "archon gear" like ely. But you did't do it.
2nd thing, siege is only fun atm and you gain less ap/kinah there than killing any 40 mob in abyss for same time spent.
3rd stop being soo good and let us other noobs to chill..
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There are tons of bots freely botting, I guess we will have to get used on them as people at NA did.
And farm bots for ap in ingi/gelk..
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There will be e55 gear, as you mentioned stormwing bow, korie eternal bow etc...
If you stood at lvl40 then it would be good to invest in 30e or 40e but at 50 not sure becouse you can be ok in anukart gear till you get 55e slowly.
But at other hand you may have issues in 2.0 facing people in e30 or e40..
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I reported one bot like 3 times in past month. Sent video, hat heated chat with support and you know what happend?!
Bot is farming like boss becouse he is boss in this game 🤦
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Are you sure it's 15 percent????
It was usualy 50 percent increase or 100 percent..
15 percent is nothing, if mob drops 9 ap with event it will be 10 ap. Its nothing, so you cannot call this event!!!
This is joke, I was thinking to play some extra time in Aion becouse of incoming event but it looks like I should buy early diablo 4!!!
I am becoming fed up already wirh your actions!!!!
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The ration 2:1, if it were true, would constitute the first time in all of Aion's
Yeah that's a wild exaggeration (assumed it's taken that way), but it does feel like that. Indratu area is perma camped with asmos, KKM/Divine dominated by asmos, shugo artifact for DP at the core camped by asmos everytime I go, so idk. It would be nice to see some actual numbers directly from GF.
That's typical one who joins elys thinking it will be 4 ely :1 asmo, so easy pve etc for you.
Asking to lock one faction can ask someone without any self honor. Eventho situation was like that, you would fight like any decent player.
You are speaking nonsence, real situation is that there are more elies on server and thats good for us asmos. More players to pvp with.
"Daddy daddy, he hit me with the ball!.."
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After a week of playing i ll switch my position on this eu classic release. It's a good patch.
You did good job!
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Watching they stream atm and i can say, guys get used to white manastones. But rest will be fine
So this "worthy" open world - Drops is the same like in NA?
Drops are same as Na 1.9 classic, so we wont be droping much manastones in open world. Mostly you will get manastones from prem pass and enchants too but its kinda expensive 20 euros for a pass without ap relics atm, and proly later on like 10 euros when they implement event passes.
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Well gj of releasing Aion Classic in EU, it's possitive that you made it.
We will have nice number of players, but after watching todays streaming I can say that you didn't do good job regarding mistakes that other regions did.
You focused non sellable candies and stuff like that wich is fine but it's not what matters the most.
We will have to adopt to fact that our manastones will be white for some time. It will be utra premium resource. Wanted to commit here but not worth from my POV, but I ll give a try for sure and play some pvp with cheapest class
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Watching they stream atm and i can say, guys get used to white manastones. But rest will be fine
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Is it fine for you that in one version you could get like (example) 4k Kinah from one mob and then in the other version only 150 Kinah? It's like spoiling a kid with 4 candies a day and then all of a sudden from night to day he receives 2 candies.
Well i agree with you, but only I dont agree with spoil stuff.
I ll give you one example on UT/LUT when they were only instances we could do, and lets say BTHM at NA. With Korean rates mobs were droping like 3k kinah but not each of them. In UT there are like 100-150 mobs, if you farm them with good geared sorc and you had some exp, you needed like 1:30h to clear full instance and you earn 300-500k kinah. If you use only casting scrool (aprox 5k each) and fine mana potions(prox 5k each) you would spend for that time like 200k + kinah on remedies. So for 1:30h of hard farm of the most effective farm and most boring one you will earn 1/7 of price of 1 manastone if there is one at broker at all, so 1 week to of boring farm to even get chance to soket one with those rates. And to socket 1 x6slot part you proably need between 20 and 50 manastones.
Basicly you would play the game only to bucher yourself!
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Robie you are right.
NA was in a good spot before this 2.5 nerf. Game felt alive, you could play and drop smth, many people came back for 2.5 and then nightmare started, no drops at all, you see 1k drop from mob, only gray items.
2 months or smth like that nobody ever saw any drops from 55 mobs in gelk or ingi where we do dailies, nobody droped sigle even white manastone. You could only drop gray item, it cannot be called a game.
So i am telling this to Galeas and company becouse we who have played there at NA know what is coming, if rates wont be decent you will see the worse game you have ever played. But if rates will be ok, no matter of chash shop, if GF is selling ap relics/manastones/if canndies can be sold for kinah to NPC/ if they sell pvp low lvl accesoris like NA at cashshop/ no matter if there will be many gliders(no anim) wich will not be banned/ no matter if there will be 500-1000 bots game will be decent.
If drops will be bad, we will pray that GF sells us manastones for cash!
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Yea same as they said when after 2.5 ap relics gave less ap that its how its intended and after people complained they increased it.
Also, they did increase rates few times by alot, mobs that droped 3k used to drop 30-50k kinah. Also we had server reroll after many mistake of their GMs after they had lay offs.
Also, they reseted several times forts to Balaur after lay offs probably becouse new GMs knew what they were doing?!
They even gave us like 150k ap as compesation, lvl50 elite pvp weaps as compesation, becouse of their lack of knowledge.
So its not if you may swap collor of car that you "borrowed", its can you drive only in 1st gear or use 2nd, 3rd etc.
I ll give you one little hint, after i rewatched stream that we had I can say that you should start praying that GF starts to sell manastones in cash shop, otherwise you will see outcome
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I ll tell you tommorow when we see streams of Aion classic did you do your mission goood or you failed? And will EU succeed as we all hope for or it will be terrible fail
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This one summary is a good one. Plus 1 month passed and its even worse now. Broker is almost empty, no drops game.
