Posts by Bones

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    If this numbers are real I mean this game can't survive without some P2W trash. Sadly but true, realistic here. Was hoping atleast 10-20k playerbase. With Lost Ark already released, BDO season drakania awakening, etc. Ouch ;(

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    They took draconian measures under the pretext that bots were the problem. The only problem is unhealty population of playerbase (their fault, stupid company is stupid) so they are "forced" to introduce more and more cashgrab or "P2W" mechanics. Normal players and whales will left eventually and only the "big bois" will stay. People who can easily spend 100k.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    Quote from robi1102

    29 341 players online = 100% capacity Siel? Or 29341 people in a log queue?

    edit: ahh 29341 people were waiting to any free space in Siel just full ... omg si how possible to log in? needed second server :) So such playerbase ... and NA ruined their success after the release ...

    yes Siel was 100% capacity which I am not sure if it was capped at 10k or 30k +30k players in queue waiting to play. So you can imagine how much playerbase just for 1 server. Same day playerbase started to rant about candies on discord. The owner of discord made a poll about candies in the same day. So in the end of the day "you reap what you sow".


    I would also like to now what model we will get in EU if it is "P2W", will close account and move on.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    Puting this to know how things could end up differently with proper model. Queue of 30k says it all (playerbase is real) for one server. After this they locked Siel.



    There was a poll in discord and majority of players was against of selling candies to the NPCs. But they didn't listen. But hey it is his job on the line not mine.


  • Aion Classic Discussion

    It is funny to see we have atleast one fanboy who defendes candies and other P2W stuff. Who said anyithing about only making revenue with only selling skins in shop? You do understand basic mathematics with sub 15 EUR 30k players is better then 1k whales right (in this case). Any MMO can be healthy if atleast with 10k playerbase, I am 100% Aion classic can surpass this with proper model on release. In NA it was proven they could easily have steady playerbase of 20-30k+ at start if not for the BS model. Maybe read my post again and just in case again to understand it. Nobody is denying there won't be any P2W stuff in Aion classic, it is about at what time they introduce it. They can go same as NA ALL IN model at start and look at what it become of the game you need to buy even stigmas in cash shop. No playerbase. On the other hand you can release a game with B2P+SUB and 100% there will be a healthy playerbase, if playerbase drops after 6 months you can introduce P2W items (smart approach).


    If they release the same model as EU so many people won't even try it out the why they did in NA. What you and many people here don't understand is if this game has lower playerbase it ain't fun.


    I take your word as "crazy" because me and probably 90% of people in this forum aren't willing to spend same as you and your "buddies" 160k EUR in BDO, 100k in Diablo Immortal. I laughed so hard on those people watching them to defend P2W model. With that money they spend on game I rather buy another appartment and rent it out.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    I doubt GAMEFORGE can influance on what model NCSOFT will bring to the EU market. The best approach is for sure to not release the same model as in other countries, NA included. I doubt NCSOFT is that "stupid" to get negative attention before releasing their new game (Throne and Liberty). Which I am surprised even some BIG streamers are looking at it, which they don't even play Korean mmos.


    I am positive they will release "good" model for the EU market atleast for 6 months + and maybe then take the plunge and introduce P2W items (when they release their new game). I hope they know that 30k playerbase is far better then 1k whales. It evens out on revenue but with 30k players game is alive atleast.


    If their intention (both comapny) is to release the same model as in NA I would advice them not to release it, because same destiny awaits them.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    For me it is ok if you need to buy the game (20 EUR) + sub 10-15 EUR/monthly and skin/pet shop (zero P2W stuff). But I am 90% they won't introduce the same thing as in NA, unless they think their playerbase is stupid. NCSOFT may do this only to funnel funds from Aion Classic to their new game Throne and Liberty.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    Read a bit the NA forum. They decreased drop rate so much people can't even get stigmas/manastones anymore via normal world drop. They did it under the pretext of combating bots. However they fix the problem by indroducing them via cash shop for 5 dollars. Don't know how much this is true, but damn NA forums seems quite desperate.


    I know there will be P2W stuff here aswell, but I do wonder if is from the start or later when the game progress. I always say if you want people to accept changes do it by small steps.In NA case they vent ALL IN from the start. If we do have the same as NA easily refuse to play the game. Will cherish the nostalgia feeling of the game from day one.


    Don't mind paying for the game and paying for subscription. I do mind buying candies and other "P2W" stuff. For me for now more CONS then PROS for this game.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    I am curious if NCSOFT is now more incline to release Aion classic in EU to fast cash grab kinah and then hop to the their new game Throne and Liberty. I can't wait Aion Classic to come in EU, on the other hand let first see if get candy shop or not.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    Quote from Galeas

    As we stated already, we do want to have AION classic. At the moment we can't because of technical challenge that need to be solved first. We are still in discussions with NC to find solutions together.

    Can we assume there are similar technical problems as Innova has to publish Aion classic. I hope this is the true and you want to publish Aion classic. I can speak for myself and will certainly play in EU servers, because of the PING. Am waiting for this game, just hope It comes soon/soonish.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    Quote from Chintsuzai
    Quote from Galeas
    Quote from Valeriq

    is there any news from Galeas on discord ? :D cuz im not using it and we know .. here news are coming slower... 8o

    If there was anything official it would be posted here before as usual for important topics :) So no, News are actually coming faster on forum than discord (well actually a few seconds later on discord because of the bot reposting forum news) ;)

    You know. You guys lost a lot of people due to Classic NA already. Majority i play with are all german players that either recently left Retail EU for Classic or are Returning Players from 5+ years ago. I dont get what is so troublesome for you guys, as a company to have so severe "technical difficulties" that they havent been resolved after all this time that has passed.

    I mean there are Illegal servers around, that run the exact same Classic as NA does already where are usually 2-3 People behind it.

    Its a shame that you guys dont communicate openly about it. Im at the point to believe that Gameforge is just afraid to loose their Retail-Servers when launching Classic. Which mind you is their own god damn fault given how they ignore the remaining People playing and kicking them in the nuts with every "f2p" event and launching Promos literally every other week which are quite frankly a rip-off given the pricing alone.

    I agree with you just don't understand why Innova has the same problems as Gameforge publishing Aion "classic" aswell. Maybe it isn't only Gameforge fault? Maybe gameforge has an upper hand when publishing a new game SOLO with higher playerbase. Aion retail EU still has some few numbers kicking, while in Russia and NA is death. A week after release of SOLO maybe we will get more news about technical issues they have. But we in a same boat as Innova, I think.

  • Aion Classic Discussion

    The only problem with candies is they are tradable. People saying they don't give any advantage is just [...] why people buying extendable weapons for 75 mio kinah then already in less then first week of gameplay (proof on discord). Second leveled sorc in Siel - Unbeatable saying candies aren't a thing yet he is buying them and opening them at lvl 50, has like 70 + in his inventory (his stream). I see so many many [...]. Again if candies are untradeable I don't care if they put them in shop. Game shouldn't be F2P at all, while boters can progress far more then you think, while 24/7 grinding and can craft later on without any penalty. Crafting isn't affected by Siels of Aura. Another thing which is the problem is BP if you compare it with candies, candies aren't even P2W then (value per dollar). Boters made money in ingame (nature way), while candies presents direct inject of artificial money. Guess NCSOFT/WEST wants to be ECB or what?


    If you have money you can ez buy gold/silver medals, while AP isn't even hard to get. You can buy manastones, enchantments, stigmas, etc.


    But with the current model which is F2P +B2P + SUB + BP + soft P2W + cosmetic. Tf is this model then to milk and shorten the game. Are they confused what model they want or they want a quicky.


    I am glad GF didn't release the game I am certain they won't. Why would they, they will only get [...] from players, while they will get more playerbase with game SOLO (game sucks but just my opinion). Aion "classic" is something short term project and I think GF is to much smart to fall for this deception. Smart move by them saying technical issues (diplomatic).


    I would still play on NA if my PING was ok, regardless what BS they put. I miss the times when skills matters not the limit of your credit card. No wonder games die fast everything on silver platter and after 3 months hope on to another MMO. The problems aren't companies it is this playerbase.

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    Edit by Zapiel: Profanity.

  • 28.10.2020 on Korea - Classic Server Discussions

    Quote from Technique
    Quote from janivali

    Couple of more days and we are starting in NA servers.. after that its too late for GF. Just make announcement if we are getting it or not.. can easy wait couple of weeks/months. If nothing happens, our grp is starting at 23th in NA servers.

    Edit: And btw, we are all returning players from 2009/2010.

    Galeas already wrote on Discord, that there is still nothing new to announce *but be aware, only stuff posted on Forums is official*

    I wonder why GAMEFORGE even has a CM employee, if he doesn't share any info.. They don't need a CM position, waste of money, imo. [...]


    GF don't have intention to release classic, why not, we will see after few months of stalling. Just hop on a NA wagon and enjoy yourself of nostalgia.


    Edit by Isobel: Discussing moderation case in public.

  • 28.10.2020 on Korea - Classic Server Discussions

    For now, they have the right to publish Aion, but contracts can be terminated. I am convinced that NCSOFT and GAMEFORGE have a clause in their contract in which there are set specific conditions under which one or the other party can withdrawn. In my opinion, GAMEFORGE is restricting NCSOFT from releasing Aion classic in EU, because it competes with the other game SOLO. They can make excuses like “technical problems,” but the truth lies elsewhere.