Posts by xeer

    to be honest i put Templar B- class, not beacuase of survival but lack dmg,

    man u crazy....have you seen yongs damage? with 1 pull he puts at 40% hp before u can react.


    and that example is not that great. all classes +15 stigmas can 1/2 shot ppl not full geared.


    Im playing alt templar with full intense and prometun gear. its not tier S no, but its not has bad has u make it sound

    I don't know how of all the AT players you are the one saying AT is the hardest class to play right now. I'm playing with full offensive stigmas and still have a pretty easy life in PvP with pretty lowish gear.

    Maybe it is hard for you, because of the offensive words you are using in pvp everybody focuses you ignoring everybody else.

    that might be true, but i have to say, i dont remember seeing u doing pvp on this patch. not even once


    and it kills me inside to say this, but i have to agree with ozaru, nooooooo wtf am i doing uugh :(

    but sorc is not a weak class currently

    about ats;

    its not c rank either wtf you on about dude. but its not that strong either currently. from what ive seen its strong in group pvp (i suspect that why they always in group) cause solo is kinda meh ok

    i dont know what gear people in shingxiao videos had :) so i can only talk from experience.

    In 2.* on my glad i was killing full groups of good geared people. Glad with 8k dp was insane. and i just had 50e so i know first hand this could be done. maybe they were mentaly challenged. :) but truth is meanwhile my Templar full primus pillus i couldn't do the same on the same group.


    So yes there was a big imbalance already in this patch


    In 3.* i just couldn't kill full parties with my glad anymore, but once i would log back in with my sm that same group that killed me on glad i would wipe them with sm. And in comparison my sm was not has geared like my glad


    I didn't play sorc in this patch, but i saw some, not many, people doing the same.


    what happened? magic classes got boosted plates had 0 magic sup and was getting exploded.


    Only in 4.* you started to see a small decline in classes like sorc. Not only cause of magic sup set but also cause of implementing more classes that further imbalanced the game.


    So i will re-enforce my initial statement that up until 4.6-5.0 sorc was one of the best classes. Stating that from 2.0 it went downhill its just not correct.

    i think you didnt understand the statment. Also gladiator was one of the strongest class in 2.* and cleric well its just cleric.

    Ofc if you have any class on lvl 50 elite it could wipe full group of greens.

    we not talking about absolut noobs. For example chanter on 2.* was uber crap class were they abble to kill full party of 40 elites? no, but a gladiator could. same logic for other classes like sm in 3.* and sorc.

    if you are the meta class and over the patches you start getting to the same lvl to others classes thats balancing. You cant expect to have a balanced class by being constantly boosted.


    Having said that, i also mentioned they overdone it now ( lately) and the class is on sub par lvl specially on group pvp

    tbh imo up until around 4.0 - 4.6 +/- i think sorc was the one of the strongest class in-game. there is many videos of sorc owning full group in 3.* 4.*

    I mean...here's a little secret about all those cool pvp videos. You can't do those 1vX's if you're vsing people who are actually good, you can only do it against bad players.

    Remember Shingxiao, who had probably the best sorc videos editing wise and was also a good sorc? He said this himself back when he used to stream during 4.x. You could maybe do it in a 1v2 scenario and even then it's debatable, but anymore than 2 people and you can be sure that they're just killing bad players. It's very easy to interrupt one person when you have multiple people (maybe not nowadays when u have a gunner running in with their iron skin that has silence resist and exploding someone who is full gear with 3-4 instant cannon skills for example but yeah).

    true, but the point is, other classes would no be able to do the same thing to the same group during these patches. The tools sorc had were stronger and better than other classes.

    they had to balance the class :) but now they over done it

    tbh imo up until around 4.0 - 4.6 +/- i think sorc was the one of the strongest class in-game. there is many videos of sorc owning full group in 3.* 4.*


    granted there is videos of sm doing just that in 3.*

    and templar in 4.*

    but overall i think sorc always has been top tier class except maybe around since 5.*

    The balancing is utter garbage since 6.0, they have no clue what they are doing at all, there is little to no testing to all the changes they bring to skills and every skill patch is hidden behind a p2w wall.

    First with 6.0 clown fiesta where chanters were invincible, then 6.5 clown fiesta with AT and clerics being way too broken, into the "very balanced" 7.0 painter, and now improved stigmas bringing way beyond stupid damage on some classes.


    Combine it with this ulti form mess that you have no reliable way to obtain, be it by paying or playing, the broken runes and odian skills they just added that litteraly makes no sense for half of the classes to receive such an insane boost while some classes that really deserved good skills got "troll" skills at best.

    And you have the mess that is currently aion 7.5 under gameforge.

    i think they know what they are doing. and what i mean by that is that the unbalance is on purpose. Example. How many people rerolled painter when it came out? and then rerolled again to gunner etc. :) there is stigmas to sell and daeva skills etc to get to +15 i think you understand what i mean. but yes the game is unbalanced for sure

    I'm not sure how you place sorc lower in a group setting than solo/1v1. If anything it's the other way around. But then again, that's your opinion so whatever.

    i justified it by the fact that in group sorc has not enough defensive tools / survavility. its ofc a good cc machine if his in a group with single target dps's but those ccs can break easily in runat, or in OW if other groups are around. meanwhile solo it has more tools to deal with 1 or 2 oponents. yes its my opinion :)

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    Ulti form bard ranking bard A tier btw. :S

    maybe A+ :) but i dont think it reaches S


    Btw im not Xer despite the similarity with his name

    I'm not sure how you place sorc lower in a group setting than solo/1v1. If anything it's the other way around. But then again, that's your opinion so whatever.

    i justified it by the fact that in group sorc has not enough defensive tools / survavility. its ofc a good cc machine if his in a group with single target dps's but those ccs can break easily in runat, or in OW if other groups are around. meanwhile solo it has more tools to deal with 1 or 2 oponents.


    If we talking about dps sorc in group its diferent and it would be higher ranked than CC sorc but its my personal opinion that Sorcs are most usefull on a rly good CC sorc that can control not only the oponent but also be a support to his cleric and chanter.


    i mean for the overall team potential. sorry for my cripled english, hope you understand, yes its my opinion :)

    Here is my list. I divide them in group pvp and solo cause they can change the class tier.

    how i rate the class is based on how usefull/essencial the class is and how strong it is either in group or solo.


    Also considering class @ its max potential ( +15 stigmas etc)


    Group:

    Tier S- Cleric - SM - Chanter - Gunner

    Tier A- Glad - AT - Bard - Sin - Painter

    Tier B - Templar (B+ or A-) Ranger

    Tier C - Sorc


    Solo

    Tier Retard - Gunner

    Tier S- Cleric - Sin -

    Tier A- Glad - Bard - SM A+ - Chanter

    Tier B - Templar - AT - Sorc - Painter -Ranger


    i dont think there is class C anymore in solo or 1V1. Sorc changed allot with stigmas +15


    Some classes i had a few doubts like ranger solo and sin in group. i haven't seen enough match ups to have a 100% certainty of the quality of the class in the many diferent situations possible.

    This is insane.

    We got to abuse the boss for 1 week, some people got 20 legendarys and are ready to try kaizinel. And gameforge decide to leave everything as it is.


    No compensation for others, no removing the abused transformations, no bans nothing.


    If your plan is to create animosity to the point people decide to leave then there you go this is how you do it.

    At least have the decency to delete the legendarys that flooded the game. Mines included.