Posts by Darknor

    So Gameforge also had to pay NCSoft, for apply this stupid change? I think no.

    You really S.....???

    All GF monetization strategy since 6.2 relied on transformation on shop

    Remember all those RNG legendary lootboxes (even for 10 types), as well as leg transformation in auction at 200€...

    GF established a business plan based on tranformation, and paid NC to apply the change.

    Man.

    Firstly, this s*** is caused by low amount of players than - for example year of premiere patch 5.0. How many players were, and how many players R now? If Aion will turn his life to the past, where Aion had massive amout of players, then this rates in market would like be like ... not 6%, but 25-30%. U know this point?

    I remind you the figure I already linked:


    From 2020 Q3 to 2021 Q1, Aion global sales rose by +200%.

    This raise is clearly linked to the Classic opening in KR.


    If you say Aion EU had massive population, what adjective shall we use for KR ?

    When they had > 20 servers online? At a period when, unlike us, they used to pay their gaming time? Other said, they are more likely to cashshop, than us (they had better prices though)


    I even hypothesized a higher raise in EU (+300%, which in fact, is unlikely to happend, compared to KR marked)


    Yet, +300% of something representing less than a tenth (and probable even lesser) of the global sales, still meaningless.


    Publishers have a hammer, calling "custom changes". With this hammer publishers can safe some part of the game.

    Publishers does not modify the game themselves. They negociate with NC about those changes to be applied.

    Since NC priority is mobile, they wont apply those changes for free.


    So here the current issue : GF probably want some changes, and NC charges with an amount that GF doesnt want to pay. And since publisher market is less than a 10th of global market, NC dont bother to lower those fees.

    ok we know the point... mobile is the main source. but you have to understand that all those numbers you show represent only ncsoft subsidiaries... meaning nc korea... nc japan... nc west etc. not gf.. not innova not sdo or others. and yea nc europe still exists... they have bns in europe and gw.


    we are under the royalty category... nc doesn't pay royalties to themselves. if it's na/eu sales... its one of the games like bns or gw that are not under a different publisher... not games like aion eu. it's hard to make the numbers for aion eu because those are released by gf and not nc... and nc is only getting royalties... basically for a license to publish.

    tl;dr: we don't have numbers for aion eu

    I though about that, but also was thinking about merchandising market (side products like goodies, NC develops games, they do not produce toys) that also comes under that category.

    Found no relevant data about it in their business summary.


    Even assuming Aion eu is part of Royaltie category, this category only represents a little above a tenth of KR market in 2021 Q1 (and royalties represent less than a tenth of sales in 2020)

    Aion is just a part of this share, still meaningless.


    That said, what does matter, is that Aion course of development depends of NC only, and not of publishers.


    What can do side publishers when they represents less than a tenth of global sales? Only pay.

    I am curious NCSoft's reactions, of course if they know what happenes in Europe. They also want money, but i think they also care their product, to it is healthy in Europe or maybe it needs a cure?

    NCsoft PC games sales stats:



    NCsoft Mobile games sales stats:


    Theses stats are worldwide.

    Even though Aion sales increased by 200% from 2020 Q3 to 2021 Q1 thanks to Classic (and mainly in KR), Aion sales still represents, in 2021, 15% of Lineage M or 13% of Lineage 2M.


    Their main course of action is currently:


    Now, if you want NA/EU income:


    This stats are all games considered (mobile/PC).

    NA/EU : not even 6% of KR market. Aion is a part of those 6%. So it is s***.


    So please stop blatering about Aion Classic in EU.

    Even if Classic EU brings +300% income, it will still be s*** compared to other games, compared to mobile, compared to KR market.

    Figures are there, AION IS NO MORE A PRIORITY (least effort) in other regions.

    Well, I though it was not about Livo putting ads, but the shown ad was about solo.


    I don't mind you put ad for covering cost.

    But it's like Mercedes putting ad for bmw, it's funny.

    Low level areas are empty, as levelling is very fast.

    Consider you are currently playing solo until you reach max level (lvl 80, inggisson).


    For the record, Stormwing is the most populated server in EU.

    C'est juste un event afk pour gonfler les stats de connexion, ça faisait un petit moment qu'on n'avait pas vu ce genre d'event.


    Je ne dis pas non au buff (toujours des conso économisés), ni à la bouffe qu'on peut faire (si j'ai bien compris, mais vais-je les faire aussi xD), mais l'event est en soi dispensable.


    Comme tu le dis Elkiez , c'est en effet un plus, mais ce n'est pas amazing non plus.

    Black


    The big issue is the game wasn't designed to support a seasonal ranking system.


    In fact, Aion was designed in an era (I choose the word) when the more time you play, the more ressource you have.


    Not to mention that in KR, before F2P, players were paying their gaming time. In such system, you dont want your AP ranking resetted, cause you paid and spend time to reach it. Resetting it was out of the topic.


    You are really cute but your brain is lagging behind, you really think it's not possible to reset the AP rankings and have players keep their AP and have only the new AP starting X register? You think that's hard for a company that's worth $15.17 B ?

    They might implement a parallele ranking system (like the GP season ranking system). But applying this to AP is totally irrelevant.

    You have too many means to earn AP (by shop, by PvE, by PvP), that such ranking is not fair among all.

    Not to mention you cannot disregard that people does not have the same game time schedule.

    Some prefer openworld PvP, some prefer Dreds, and so on...

    Cashshopper might buy dred resets scrolls to earn more AP(first taste of P2W war machine).

    (Didnt play before F2P so I dont really know about mean to earn AP before 3.x though)


    That's why they introduced HP ranking, to get rid of those differences and make a relevant ranking system (relevant aka all have the same chances). In such case, implementing a seasonal ranking system is possible (like the reset we just got in retail)

    because if something is 0.01%... there will be quite a number of boxes opened by players and runs done before the drop it will trigger again... so it can fit the statistics. but you could be the lucky one that did a run in the right time and got it. when ppl will realize this event is a waste of time... the bigger rewards will drop less. from observing so many similar events... the big op rewards that people get are in the first few days or quite the first day and then die off. pretty stupid.

    Well, that does not change from many past events (lamp, matrioska...) where you prey RNG to grant you the graal.


    What is disappointing in current hidden hellpath event is that regular rewards are garbage.


    Last time we got hellpath, we got leg stones, ultimates stones and so on at least. SO your time was worth the reward even on alts.


    Now, besides A or S minionites, we have polishing or cleaning POWDER (10).

    At best, 3-4 days for A stone.


    Should have put ultimate fragment, that would have made more sense. Wait, better farm 200 mobs in Kald.... Tempus Celat for 1 fragment.


    Wonderful events...

    It's not real rewards for the event. It is meant for the testing and to check if you get it. If it would be very high and not everyone gets it because of a bug, then it would be bad and players would complain.


    You also complained in the past that events were not properly tested. The only way to test this one properly is to test it on live. Which is what we are doing.

    Something more useful for tester, for example, 40 luna (not much to not impact shop, enough to cover useful usage). Better, 50 Aion coin.

    Not a big deal if we miss it.

    I dont get Unbeatable intervention purpose.


    OFC deploying classic in EU would require specific commercial terms between NC KR and GF, as is it another game (although old, but another still).

    1 Server = expectation of income = license fee for for NC. No matter of the version.


    When we talk about license fee for NC, we dot not talk about a fixed price only but obviously, a renting fee (fixed price) + a share (%) of the income made.

    This is what Amazon, or any platform are doing with their marketplaces. Fool would be the one not doing that.


    Now about the point about will NC will do it or not, just saying that for NC POV, all they have to do is to sign contract with GF, some westernization and provide some support (included in the contract).

    No premices to be paid in EU, no taxes in EU, no employee to pay, no marketing campain to fund, no streamer to sponsorship... All is supported by GF. Remember that the bare language translation was supported by GF as well.

    Remember for those who played before F2P, your account had to be migrated to GF account management system (technical requirement).


    For NC, aside some negociated commercial terms, license model is easy money with less effort, while GF has to support all headaches to maintain and make classic live/living in EU.

    Non.

    1 boss à 19h. Ok visiblement tout le monde peut le taper pour valider la QH.


    Contrainte horaire : pas que ça à faire d'être tous les jours sur Aion à 19h. Ouverture terrasses et couvrefeu à 21h.


    Pk 19h? On ne va pas faire les altars?


    Récompense de QH

    Bon des pierres 100% PvE ou PvP... Ca ne sert que pour tenter des +15 à partir de +14.

    En dessous, vous devrez utiliser des ultimes après autrement vous perdez le bénéfice du 100%. Autrement dit, à n'utiliser qu'à partir de +12. Si vous êtes en dèche d'ultime, pourquoi pas. Ou pour un reroll.

    Contrat de transfo blanc? no comment.

    Skill deavanion pour ceux qui need. OK

    Passable, mais pas foufou pour 2021.


    Récompense de boss

    Mouai bon, avec le roll pour la meilleure cohorte, dispensable.