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You know what I realized while writing this reply? A sub + season pass to Aion classic costs the same as buying New World outright. Please explain to me how that makes any sense.

If you're selling a somewhat essential product, you can afford setting its price low, as everyone and their mother will buy it anyway.

If you're selling vegan/gamer stuff, you have to adjust its price sufficiently higher, as it can target a significantly slimmer audience than something that is essential.

NWO - brand new game, made by Amazon with unlimited advertising power and good (as in modern) graphics, can attract plenty of players. In fact, it had over 900k unique players at release during peak time.

Aion [Classic] - an old, poorly optimised for modern PC game made by a company known for good mobile games (in Asia) and poor/disappointing PC games (elsewhere). The only thing it can use for advertisement is the nostalgia of a very limited audience.

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NWO is "dogshit"sorry but not sorry.Evry new mmorpg we ever got beside AION was always a shit full of weird combat or full pve and evry single one of them died in less then 1-2 years.

Aion might be old 12 years but still look at it.Still there.Most mmorpg end in few months.And NWO will be one of them You will see.Same with Elyon another boring game similar to BLACK DESERT.

Man all this new mmorpg are shit and they will all die faster then Aion.And when they do AION will probably still be alive.

I dunno if i should post here but the client doesnt work?I had no problems with 8.0 in first week of release now i get this dumb error with "cant connect to the server" "try closing firewall etc".I tried evrything i just cant open the client.Whats wrong.I tried steam and gameforge client too btw.

You know skills are amazing.i love the new combat system.And thx god no more shit leveling for 3 months to max lvl.But the patch seems boring and i dont find many players.So i guess the game its doom.

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carrier pigeon got lost on the way between NC and GF, that's why. (or it got eaten )

i didnt know they still use carrier pigeons these days

Why do you think it takes 6 months for Gameforge to implement the Korean patches after they happen

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I think you guys should let it go.Because it takes too long sadly.And even if 2.0 patch comes EU classic its gonna be boring.The game was more fun since 4.0 to 4.8 so yeah.For me its kinda over.You should try other games its wahtever.Their lost.

Nice troll, the game was good at 4.* yes, but it was as good in 3.* and 2.*. Anything after and I can't take you seriously. The game is a p2w rng gacha style microtransaction parody.

Youre kinda dumb. But sure. the "p2win"we had in europe wasnt really p2win. [...] .The game was boring 2.0 because not much content doesnt mean it wasnt a good game. From 4.0 the game was more "Balanced" with patches istances and easier to farm gear etc thats why was better.

So with the p2win stfu. In europe was only goldpacks in shop and thats IT. like a montly subscription if you didnt wanna farm in game and buy from other players. Thats not p2win [...]. Dont teach me AIon. Evry noob like you finds "evrything p2win" because some stuff in shop. Leave dude go play mario.

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If it's pay 2 win it's pay 2 win. You don't like to hear it because you like to play this game. It's a defensive mechanism to defend the thing you like to play. Doesn't make it any less pay 2 win though. But rest assured, most people have quit, and many more will quit. You'll just hop to the next pay 2 win game and tell people there the same thing without ever wondering why your game never gains any momentum.

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Then if it was "p2win"in the past then i guess people loved "p2win"because the game was super populated until 5.0.

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Well on my templar i cant use most my skills LO

So you are that kind of guy who use only grab & nezekan ? Oo (or you have a bug on your install)

(credit to Pharaoh-DN & Alyta-DN for the g-sheet)

Ah shit now they require dp LOL.what a clown fiesta holy shit.thx man.

Well on my templar i cant use most my skills LOL.Because it require "dp".So i dunno wtf is going on.If its a bug or thats how it is.And ofc i cant understand nothing lol

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thought its on its way

carrier pigeon got lost on the way between NC and GF, that's why. (or it got eaten )

i didnt know they still use carrier pigeons these days

Why do you think it takes 6 months for Gameforge to implement the Korean patches after they happen

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I think you guys should let it go.Because it takes too long sadly.And even if 2.0 patch comes EU classic its gonna be boring.The game was more fun since 4.0 to 4.8 so yeah.For me its kinda over.You should try other games its wahtever.Their lost.

Nice troll, the game was good at 4.* yes, but it was as good in 3.* and 2.*. Anything after and I can't take you seriously. The game is a p2w rng gacha style microtransaction parody.

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Youre kinda dumb. But sure. the "p2win"we had in europe wasnt really p2win. [...] .The game was boring 2.0 because not much content doesnt mean it wasnt a good game. From 4.0 the game was more "Balanced" with patches istances and easier to farm gear etc thats why was better.

So with the p2win stfu. In europe was only goldpacks in shop and thats IT. like a montly subscription if you didnt wanna farm in game and buy from other players. Thats not p2win [...]. Dont teach me AIon. Evry noob like you finds "evrything p2win" because some stuff in shop. Leave dude go play mario.

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I think you guys should let it go.Because it takes too long sadly.And even if 2.0 patch comes EU classic its gonna be boring.The game was more fun since 4.0 to 4.8 so yeah.For me its kinda over.You should try other games its wahtever.Their lost.

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Sad part is Gf have lost a great chance due to these technical difficulties.

Gf lost a chance to release <an old game made in an ancient game engine which is unable to efectively use the modern PC parts with no anticheat and made by a company who is known for literally p2w ruining all of their other pc games> game in time due to these technical difficulties.

They just dodged a bullet, seeing current NA numbers .

What are you smoking?

Have you seen RETAIL numbers on EU, 2 PM my time?

Aion on NA has always not been popular, Classic on EU would have been insanely popular.

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How do u know aion classic on eu would be popular? i think there wasnt any classic release in eu yet, so noone knows xD classic in na was very full at the release aswell but ncsoft f**ked up as always, will be the same with gf here if it ever get released.

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Aion EU was always more populated then NA my guy.And 100% sure if Classic will arrive to EU it will be very populated.Most population in NA are from EU.With high ping but they love the game and they play it.

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Innova has confirmed the plans to release a classic server in Russian region.

So Russia will change to NCsoft platform why cant GF do this? and at least say something.

Probably because that means no goldpacks, pay to win shop from the start, and then Gameforge is like: "Oh noooooesss my moneeeeeeeys ".

I actually would prefer goldpacks into shop and free to play then pay2play montly and the servers to be empty.We had this in the past and not many people would play the game.Since they did F2PLAY then the servers were insanily populated.

So no offence to any player here but pay2play wont help the game in EUROPE.

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At this point i kinda give up on EU classic.

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The reality is people like us, I'll include myself even tho I haven't really played Aion in years, are masochists.

There's a reason why Aion failed, not that the game was bad, might not even be the fact that it was hella p2w and the Western audience hates p2w. But because of the communication between Korea and Gameforge, the slow decisions of Gameforge, the slow fixes, the empty promises the waiting half an year to a year for patches.

And nothing will change, sadly, even with Classic.

Take per example this situation; Let's say Classic launches and there's one thing that 99% of player-base hates, something incompatible with the Western player-base. I'll say randomly... the fact that you can cover remove shock with silence. And people want that to be fixed.

How long do you think that's gonna take? I can tell you now, months, if ever. It will be fixed with the next big patch which will be years away.

This is Aion, this is why Aion declined. At least, one of the many many reasons.

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I think Aion failed mostly because bad decisions and yes.A lot of time in making those decisions.Most of the time they dont listen to their players thats why it failed.

Im pretty sure that if classic comes to EU hopefully soon the game will age badly again.But to be honest until 5.0 the game was more then fine.If they can keep it like that then evrything will be good.

However with all this waiting most players wont care anymore and move on and just let it die.

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I said it like 4 months ago or something, gameforge won't release classic date before they release 8.0...

It has nothing to do with any technical problems.

Gameforge is a multi-million dollar company, there is no technical issue that they can't fix in a matter of days if they want to.

classic delay is all about money (milking).

Lol i doubht they multi-million dollar company.i really doubht that.but the issue to be more then 6 months and even NA got the game its truly something weird here.But i do agree with the retail.Once classic arrives retail is dead.If it ever comes to EU ofc.But retail is already dead so i dont know.

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Are there any new infos about Aion classic? Or do you still work on the same "problem" from like 6 months ago?

Wait 6 months???I didnt know it was so long LOL.I guess at this point they just dont wanna release the game in EU.Game over then.

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i would give you a wall of text to read but since you fanboying much, all i will tell you its not logistics problems, if you ever had to setup physical servers or aws/azure ones you would know.

Also we will see the model implemented by gf when it drops. if anything i hope you are right

I mean if they do the f2p with some cash shop like skins and goldpacks its not p2win.The cash shop must exist.And if its like old times since i remember from 3.0 and only goldpack was valuable then its perfect.

Ye the more they wait the worst it gets.They should bring now Aion classic and it will be all good.If they wait too long people would just give up on it and dont care anymore even if we get it later.And with new mmorpgs coming out meh.

For me its the same.Waiting for news from GF about Aion Classic.I still have my hopes up,for now.

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What are you smoking my friend, in 4.* most PVP was everywhere, more spread out than 3.0 because of how big the maps were. The BM gear quests made it so that you could find PVP pretty much everywhere.

Not to mention Katalam Underground, where ppl farmed coins and items to enter Runadium, there was always PVP.

It was a lot of PVE because it was the first time that the PVE was actually good in Aion. Runadium, Katalam etc.

If 4.* had no accessory enchant and all that p2w bs elements it would be the best Aion patch imo.

I dunno what you talking about.In 4.X yes there was pvp.I never said it wasnt.But it wasnt so much because pve was evrywhere and 70% of players would focus on that.Because pve was "better"in 4.x and people would rather do PVE all day long evry day.

But since 5.0 was different and you had to do pvp.Especially since 6.0 with enchants and evrything.PVE was simple and it was tons of pvp.I even heard most people cryng that the patch is "pvp oriented".So ofc 4.x there was pvp but not as much as 5.0 and up.

4.X was more pve oriented.If you go to this server you can see it yourself.PVE ALL DAY.

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idk man... with 5.x they removed lots of maps and pvp instances...

and the pvp was horrible because of that transform (fire and others). it was horrible because leveling past 66 to 75 was horrible and some avoided highest levels... and the stupid point system was pointless.

it was bad because they introduced stupid minions which were op... or they introduced enchanting for stigmas... or items over +15... pvp % on some more ornaments. and so on an on.

and the maps (esterra and nosra) were uninviting to pvp and separated factions even more... if you cared about open world pvp.

patch 6.x was even worse... separate pvp enchants and more rng and harder to get pvp gear (ancient leg to ulti route)... +15 accs... and imbalance and p2w like forms and more. not even worth mentioning all because its getting worse up to today 7.9 and future 8.0. good thing they removed some of the 6.0 features... and some of the 5.0... it was horrible.

ppl were crying about pvp in 6.x because it's imbalanced more than ever.

i think we have a very different view of what pvp means. up to later 4.x this game had lots of pvp and enjoyable pvp. now it has less and it's less enjoyable as well... because of players lacking essential items vs players that have them.

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I agree pvp 5.0 was shit.With fire transforms etc and insane time for leveling i agree.But my point was that 4.x patch was more pve oriented while from 5.0 AND up was more pvp oriented.In fact most people quit 6.0 because there wasnt so much "pve" fun as they said.

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What are you smoking my friend, in 4.* most PVP was everywhere, more spread out than 3.0 because of how big the maps were. The BM gear quests made it so that you could find PVP pretty much everywhere.

Not to mention Katalam Underground, where ppl farmed coins and items to enter Runadium, there was always PVP.

It was a lot of PVE because it was the first time that the PVE was actually good in Aion. Runadium, Katalam etc.

If 4.* had no accessory enchant and all that p2w bs elements it would be the best Aion patch imo.

I dunno what you talking about.In 4.X yes there was pvp.I never said it wasnt.But it wasnt so much because pve was evrywhere and 70% of players would focus on that.Because pve was "better"in 4.x and people would rather do PVE all day long evry day.

But since 5.0 was different and you had to do pvp.Especially since 6.0 with enchants and evrything.PVE was simple and it was tons of pvp.I even heard most people cryng that the patch is "pvp oriented".So ofc 4.x there was pvp but not as much as 5.0 and up.

4.X was more pve oriented.If you go to this server you can see it yourself.PVE ALL DAY.

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Arena was very active in those patches. Discipline, Chaos, Coop, Glory. And later with arena scrolls that flooded the broker you could pvp all day in arena if you wanted to. And many pvp instances ofcourse, Dred , KB, JMR, etc. Also yeah open world pvp wasn't really a thing, but it's unfair to judge with the population servers had back then before the basic big merges. Also when honor point system replaced AP ranking people need more reasons to go out pvp in open wolrd than before. There isn't a perfect patch and there isn't any perfect change. Everytime something got "fixed" in aion, something else went bad.

4.6 siege system was the best, but as i said it's unfair to judge it when servers were empty. One side domination fortress yes, that was true in some servers and periods, but weaker faction always revived at the end and roles were switched (at least on the server i was playing). Also the defender dominating faction was braindead and pushing / killing the attackers outside of the contribution zone. Can can you really blame the sytem? Or the lack of gameforge's monitoring and support and players stupidity. Also kata sieges at 4.x era went through a lot of phases. Sometimes they were all vulnerable at the same time, and other times individually at diffrent hour. In any case there was the npc squad guards that appearing inside forts, so defenders could contribute and get reward and not waste their time.

I guess it's the same buff we the one we have atm right? If yes then this buff in high levels is completly broken. Makes players basically immortal. Only way such buffs could work is to either cap it in level 3 max, or everytime the weaker faction manage to capture the fort, then the buff should reset. Otherwise it's ridiculous and completly nulifies the player's effort and gears.

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I mean the buff its OP but it helps a lot.In the past in 4.6 some factions could hol dthe fort for 3 months and people would give up on siege.Because it was really hard to get rewarded too.Thats why this buff 6.0 is good because even if you hold the fort for 2 3 days and the server is unbalanced you can still get the fort.AND ITS FAIR.

Sieges in 4.6 were attrocious.I got nothing else to say about that.The rewards werent even that good.I was doing full gear cera especially with daily weekly pvp arenas etc.But never sieges.It was not fun not cool not rewarded.The only think i hated about classic was siege system.And i truly believe this buff that we have now in retail will make balance and people will enjoy going siege.I woudl tell you about a server 4.6 that people already gave up on sieges there.Cant blame them.