Sources for legendary apostles lost?

    At start I will write about my awareness of remove pvp instances long before this patch. However I thought that some source for fragments of mentioned apostles (yustiel, triniel, vaizel and lumiel) for battlefield coins (I have farmed them a lot for it) will stay or GF will create a different source/NPC (for example in that new for hero medals or so). Is this means that we can not longer to finish it?


    This was very long term goal - without event buffs you needed at least 2 years to have all 4 with good RNG (always 1 for each form from 4 random bags per week). Of course during these 2 years when we had NPC with bags of fragments, we had together 3 times of event for battlefield coins (and special shugo with selectable fragments) and thanks to it - I was very close to get them all finally after spending so much time and efforts. Actually I have done only yustiel form (red one) luckily but the rest is 93-93-94 and close 1500 coins for further random bags to be sure for get them :( You can see it in the attachment.


    I can mention even about fragments from elite rewards many, many months ago what I have received too but since several last editions you can not get them even there, this sucks.


    Yeah, yeah - I know about 3x bags with random fragments (they should be selectable finally) from weekly HQ but what after? I doubt that I will finish something else and if we will not have any other farmable, like before, sources then it means that we, f2p players (p2w bought that forms from flash auctions at least 1 year ago), have been hardcore trolled by GF soon before end this long-term goal (GF have not mentioned about deleting this source). I write "we" because I know that I am not alone who was so close to finish it. So what now? All (in my case almost) went for nothing?


    Btw. patch notes mentioned about possibility of exchange collected battlefield coins to hero trophies or something like that - we should have ingame some npc for it but I have found nothing in the capital or Inggison/Gelkmaros. Where can we to do this?

    I want to know this too, even i luckily get 100/100 fragments with 3 apostels last week. The last apostel have 94/100 fragments and i really want to get the last 6 fragments because i farm the other 94 in a really long time.....


    btw. it´s a nice joke that 8.3 "refreshs the pvp" and reduce possible options and times to get it

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    Same NPC as exchange PvE and PvP stones.

    Thank you. That exchange is truly scam - 100 coins to 1 trophy. You needed 3-4 days hardcore farming coins with event buff for 100 coins or without event you had low chance for even 60 coins per week. Sad - GF extended this event for coins but this 1 week longer spent for farm is wasted. We can say that you get nothing for it (I hope for 10 coins -> 1 trophy but well...). I have farmed so many coins only for bags of transformation fragment because I had high hope that this option will stay.


    Galeas I believe that we will get it sooner than later and this will not be an event with rewards where you will have random low chance for get a bag with random fragment (even if it would be selectable bag - random chance for it will be scam). I write it because GF mastered such moves and decisions. We just want an option for farm them with 100% sure that we can choose this reward (like 1 of rewards from npc) - I am sure that these fragments will be obtainable through events only now. And not 1 bag/fragment per week, even if selectable, lol.

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    We are working on providing it from another source at the moment.

    just put it for the same price into the Hero Trophy NPC. shouldnt be a huge issue with the help of NC-Soft. Given RU has a complete custom shop for that.

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    We are working on providing it from another source at the moment.


    Any update on this? It's been a month...


    How much longer this loooooong term goal is going to become?

    Legend of the Kaisinel Temple

    Galeas


    Giving you my negative feedback to this joke solution about apostle fragments in hero trials with hope to reconsider and change it in near future. Not only you delayed our farming by 2 whole months, but you made it even harder and boring than before to get them.


    Who the heck thought of put hero trials with x4 and x8 urgent orders to complete in.... dead maps? Besides dumaha (in altar time) and tempus fugit, all the other maps on the list are empty. And don't tell me about inggi/gelk pve sieges. What is this, wandering around for hours chasing ghosts?


    And pve instanses hero trials for fragments...? Why? What is the logic behind this, since originally those fragments were farmable only by pvp instanses.


    And those numbers you have really... , 15 days for 4 randoms fragments by mass pve and 2 selectable ones in empty maps pvp...


    Spam everything to get nothing as usual...


    Connect the fragments to chaos arena , you can even make a hero trial about it (hero trophies earnings per week / 15 days or whatever) if you can't or don't want to mess with the hero npc seller. Remove the "random" part. Multiply by a lot that insulting selectable 2 , and maybe then you can set this on right track.

    Legend of the Kaisinel Temple

    I completely agree with Neverfelt, but I would really like to know what kind of sadistic tendencies lurk inside designers' heads. Any info about that please.


    Is the main objective of offering a game to play to sit behind the computer 24/7 to hopefully catch all the bosses? Can someone tell me how many fragments are in those transformation bundles we get as a reward for completing all PVE instances and which transformations can be get from those; i assume not apostol's ones since there is a separate quest for those?


    But i must congratulate to NC and GF once again- I really don't have any expectations about this game, but the way you manage to make things worse almost each patch and the way patchnotes leave description of many negative game changes (like no more ap from Aspharanta quests) and players are left scratching our heads why the hell would someone change that and checking if logs are suddenly bugged... well, that's probably some some of art.


    I suggest you make a course about how to make things worse for the people.


    Oh, and if you care about the people at least a little bit, be sure to livestream with people who are actually capable of expressing something relevant in one or two sentences. The guy who was (trying) explaining the comparison between old and new Kherub quests is clearly uncapable to make two simple and clear sentences that are needed to explain what he was asked. I stopped watching after that, maybe he improved later on.


    Though we all can talk, sadly not everyone can speak to public.


    Again, good job! See you in singularity in 2045.

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    Is the main objective of offering a game to play to sit behind the computer 24/7 to hopefully catch all the bosses?

    To be fair what they're doing so fairly smart.


    They provide an f2p option of farming an item which is extremely unefficient and just demotivating, but good enough for our CM to brag about it any moment someone state that gameforge do nothing to make the game playable.

    At the same time they discourage players from playing and try to get them frustrated enough to start just paying for a game.


    Obviously its enough to look at the numbers to see that it doesnt really work to well, but atleast theyre trying to "play it smart"

    To be honest I've been pondering exactly about what you wrote, but then i was asking myself, why don't they simply present a game as a completely payable, set some price to attract people that can pay and simply disregard the rest of population. Whales can still fight each other.


    I just can't understand why people spend so much time tricking and misleading other people in every possible way instead to be honest. Whole world is just presenting pure crap as gold. Can so many people really be so blind or naive or stupid to not understand in the end everybody loses?

    Ok so they limited it to free players but how can spending money help paying players? I'm asking because I would love to spend money to get Ultimate Transformation until Classic show up

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    Quote from Elysorrow

    The guy who was (trying) explaining the comparison between old and new Kherub quests is clearly uncapable to make two simple and clear sentences that are needed to explain what he was asked. I stopped watching after that, maybe he improved later on.


    Though we all can talk, sadly not everyone can speak to public.


    Again, good job! See you in singularity in 2045.

    I can give you answer - he has not idea how the game works, so he was trying hardly to figure it out till he was speaking. If he had a game knowledge this wont happen.


    About the hero trials. Last summer we got the same hero trials and we gave negative feedback about bosses spawning 3 times per week, about the lakrum bosses spawning 4 times per a day and dying by one hit, about the gate quests where the gate boss appeares ones per 24h . We were trying to explain that is not good idea because we need to work to pay our bills and that AION does not pay our bills. It is hard to make the quests. During sieges the lag is horrible. I can not go in boss room at Basen or Prades. My client stop working. I got black or white screen and everything is slide show. I can not move . But this summer we got the same hero trials and the rewards were awefull - glory, sillentium and abyss.... We got the same hero trial this time permanent with option f2p player to get something. That is a huge disrespect.


    Yestarday i did 4 daily quests in Dumaha, got only 1 counted. Awesome!!!!!!

    The client crashed over 10 times. Amazing!!!!!




    The quests for the transformation fragments are AWEFULL. Was it hard to ask NC to make NPC and we buy for insigna of experience fragments per week?

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    Ok so they limited it to free players but how can spending money help paying players? I'm asking because I would love to spend money to get Ultimate Transformation until Classic show up

    It's right there in the shop.

    Tiamat's Protector Pack

    Ereshkigal's Noble Chest


    But I'd like to mention, that if you were incapable of finding it in shop it might be better for you not to spend your money on it.

    Galeas put the fragments in shugo wending machine. Bring back the shugo NPC who was selling the fragments for battlefield coins and change the currency from battlefield coins to insignia of experience.


    Just for once make the things right.