Focus on short-term profits to boost quarterly result? I doubt it, this could work out to be a longer-term strategy if done right, look at OSRS and even wow classic.
How would you explain NA classic then?
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That's not Gameforge, NCwest did it first, so GF can learn from NCwest's mistakes and make classic better
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That's not Gameforge, NCwest did it first, so GF can learn from NCwest's mistakes and make classic better
Yes but I want you to try tell me why you think an experienced and successful company like NCsoft would make this mistake?
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Yes but I want you to try tell me why you think an experienced and successful company like NCsoft would make this mistake?
NCWest and NCSoft are 2 different things.
NCSoft released classic readjusted to the liking of koreans pc players (while also reminding the generic playerbase about the franchise before the A2 will be released on mobile as they most likely don't want to repeat the failure of BNS Mobile)
NCWest just lowkey copied things from NCSoft, slapped some basic translations which were 99% already done anw and wanted it to work, without any efford like fixing well known issues or readjusting the game for the non-korean playerbase
I belive Galeas already stated that they're aware of some of the problems and are constantly working with NCs to solve the problems so the EU version can be actually fitting the european playerbase
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That's not Gameforge, NCwest did it first, so GF can learn from NCwest's mistakes and make classic better
Yes but I want you to try tell me why you think an experienced and successful company like NCsoft would make this mistake?
It works for KR because of their population. NCwest's classic team was 3 people, no QA, all they did was apply what KR told them to apply. They did not have a say in the matter, we got a copy of KR with KR Values for siege/events. That obviously didnt work, but yeah, no QA testing so it went live. Gameforge has a QA team actively testing all patches, and they have a say in what they want compared to NCwest.
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Lowkey hoping they actually release after new year,and spend the time till then making sure all ''issues'' were taken care of/removed etc,testing blabla, and ofc advertising and partnering with streamers and stuff, bring some hype and get the news out
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Lowkey hoping they actually release after new year,and spend the time till then making sure all ''issues'' were taken care of/removed etc,testing blabla, and ofc advertising and partnering with streamers and stuff, bring some hype and get the news out
What makes you think they haven't done that already? They could have prepared the rest until the technical issues were fixed.
And to be fair, it's really easy to not screw it up. Remove candies from the shop, don't add P2W stuff that breaks the game's pacing in the battle pass(the battle pass as a system is good tho) and ban bots/ap traders
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How would you explain NA classic then?
What about it?
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How would you explain NA classic then?
What about it?
It was released in NA without any customization for the region leading to it dying within less than a month
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How would you explain NA classic then?
What about it?
It was released in NA without any customization for the region leading to it dying within less than a month
And what customization do you want? Cos this has been done in the past and the result has been the same, because the game is what it is.
For example in 6.0 we had increased world drop rates, we had hero trials with cool stuff that other regions didnt had. We had transformation scrolls for free every week in shop, i belive even gold transformation scrolls from world drops that other regions didnt had or had later.
What was the result? a grindy af game, with RNG like madness, repetitive, bad performance in FPS, old game,hackers/exploiters and p2w.
So even tho i agree to fix the kinah thing from start. The game its gonna be 98% the same, cos its what it is. And if GF/Ncsoft didnt spend money in 2014 to ban hackers fast when the game was giving "some kind of revenue" in the WEST, imagine now..
PD: If they make Classic with Gold Pack (they should if they dont want it to die in 1/2 months). There will be bots that will generate some kind of mats/manastones for the broker so the prices are not crazy. So even that you dont know if its gonna be a problem. And sub or gold pack, the drops are not gonna be amazing because this game is meant to be grindy, and always has been (more or less). Its not meant so you can gear your main in 2 weeks and start having fun and focusing on other alt classes.
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And what customization do you want? Cos this has been done in the past and the result has been the same, because the game is what it is.
For example in 6.0 we had increased world drop rates, we had hero trials with cool stuff that other regions didnt had. We had transformation scrolls for free every week in shop, i belive even gold transformation scrolls from world drops that other regions didnt had or had later.
Maybe in small picture the HT or OW drop were nice, but it did little to nothing in terms of making the game better for the european playerbase so i don't really know what your point is.
Like... because gameforge gave us abysmal chance for getting essential game items everyone and their aunts should have to make the game enjoyable you think that game adjustments for region are pointless?
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And what customization do you want? Cos this has been done in the past and the result has been the same, because the game is what it is.
For example in 6.0 we had increased world drop rates, we had hero trials with cool stuff that other regions didnt had. We had transformation scrolls for free every week in shop, i belive even gold transformation scrolls from world drops that other regions didnt had or had later.
Maybe in small picture the HT or OW drop were nice, but it did little to nothing in terms of making the game better for the european playerbase so i don't really know what your point is.
Like... because gameforge gave us abysmal chance for getting essential game items everyone and their aunts should have to make the game enjoyable you think that game adjustments for region are pointless?
Here's my issue with drop rates etc.
Aion EU has always had a lot less players per Server than KR.
KR additionally has historically always had an insane bot infestation, something that EU servers haven't had to those extremes.
GF has repeatably stated that they haven't lowered drop rates and I believe this to he true.
Judging by botrate and playerbase rate, of course KR sees a higher "drop rate", there's more characters doing shit and dropping stuff.
I think the droprate thing is one of the stupidest tinfoil hat theories surrounding Aion
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How would you explain NA classic then?
What about it?
It was released in NA without any customization for the region leading to it dying within less than a month
First of all NA always had a lot less players than EU + bugs and exploits at the beginning = Aion Classic NA Death
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Just to let you know Galeas , if you let the very popular bug/glitch that is known to almost everybody about the kinah unlimited CAP, or AP trader arn't punished almost immediatly.
Also bot hunting, ending up with bot army.
Alot of players will have no mercy but to use those glitch/bot, ap trade,
I think its in the interest of all to prevent from those mistake done by Ncwest.
With almost 2 years + late for even annoncing officialy Classic EU, I wish you the best of luck doing the less mistake as possible.
Regarding to all other Online Game that is being released / coming soon I doubt players will stick to an MMO if it does not listen its community.
No need to argue about it but once Classic EU is annonced the community would like to have some statement regarding the futur of EU Classic.
Since you staff of GF already mentionned Ncwest IT seems that you know well what hapenned.
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Edit by Isobel: English board.
Isobel, the master of editing
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Ok please dont release. Dont ruin my life
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And what customization do you want? Cos this has been done in the past and the result has been the same, because the game is what it is.
For example in 6.0 we had increased world drop rates, we had hero trials with cool stuff that other regions didnt had. We had transformation scrolls for free every week in shop, i belive even gold transformation scrolls from world drops that other regions didnt had or had later.
Maybe in small picture the HT or OW drop were nice, but it did little to nothing in terms of making the game better for the european playerbase so i don't really know what your point is.
Like... because gameforge gave us abysmal chance for getting essential game items everyone and their aunts should have to make the game enjoyable you think that game adjustments for region are pointless?
What im saying is that this game is meant to be a gear grind game, with some rng (more or less), but thats Aion.
Aion is not a game that focus on improving, climbing a pvp ladder, hunting skins or prestigious titles. Aion is a gear grind simulator to get top gear or "good" one as fast as posible, and abuse whatever you can till you get bored fast. Then repeat the process after a major patch.
So, what improvements are you gonna make? If the game is basically designed to be like this. Dropping lots of manastones, kinah, enchantment stones so you can gear fast and have fun? would be kind of cool, but the game is not developed for that neither have the infrastructure to focus on other stuff.
So you can expect minor changes for Western players (as we have got in the past), but as ive said, its gonna be 98% the same. "Repetitive, bad performance, hard grind, p2w (more or less) etc..."
PD: Stop blaming Gameforge or NCwest, cos basically the game has always been the same. With more or less grind and p2w, but the same kitten in every region.
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So much bullshit, Aion is a world in a constant battle, where 2 race permanently fight each other in order to dominate the other, where you are faction anorher race in the abyssal zone wich is Balaur.
PvPvE, where they can improve the game is giving more PvPvE objectif (Quest Daily/Weekly), Its not about grinding gear those can be done playing casualy. If one dude is Geared in your party it wont be a game changer in RvR.
As you noticed they are creating new zone/Dredgion system in Classic.
So yeah they def improving the game.
Retails is dead, its dead since they realized Aion Retail cannot live without having perma event to help ppl with the lack of content in game to gear up etc...
Sometimes they even have 4/5 event at the same times mostly based on CS.
If you don't like Classic idea you can stay on retails, but watch every Classic Licenses that are doing well ans way better than their respective retails version even 1/2 years after.
Devs of most old mmo understood that they fked up big and are re-writing the story of their game based on Classic Mindset.
Retails of most MMO are gone to far in the wrong road.
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Looks like Classic is going in a different direction after all
