General Event Discussion

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    Quote from Galeas

    7.9 Release : Period in which fusing 3 legendary contracts can't give you a lower rank transformation. (News will be provided when it starts).

    Look, this guy from NA fuses 2 legendararies 18 times and gets nothing. Just imagine how much time is needed to farm all those transformations in EU.

    Good question, never thaught about that. Let´s see...... I have all 10 regulary legendarys, 3 apostle, 1 hanbock, 2 halloween, fused at least 3x 4 legendarys so far (can´t remember exactly, can be 4x 4 or 5x 4 too) and fused 1x 6 legendarys and actually I have 12 legendarys which wait for 7.9 (where I am pretty sure that I will get only legendarys again with 3x fuses....).

    Makes at least 48 legendarys on my account so far and I am no hardcore grinder, I missed the event 2 or 3 years ago where everyone got tons of legendarys and I skipped actual hero trials completely, so way more legendarys than my 48 are possible....

    The problem are not the legendary transformations, the problem is that getting an ultimate is pure casino slot machine game with very small chances.....


    EDIT: just watched the video, lucky NA, they can´t fall down from 2x legendary transformations AND have an event where they get safe ultimate selection box from 12 used legendary transformations, I am so jealous on NA.....

    But thats how NC-Soft NA treats their customers, under Gameforge we never ever get that...

    Guys, soon classic will be up they will give you everything cause most of the players will leave this p2w system. The last update of this current version is 7.9 and was already announced will be no more updates until the end of the year. Why? Because Aion Classic has a huge success in Korea and they will focus all theirs efforts on the classic version. So when they will realize this version will be deserted and will be no more cow to milk will give everything FREE to show you how great company they are. They all do that. Remember what happened before update 6.0. So ya, I won't put too many hopes anymore on this version. If Aion Classic is proving to be a success and if I am not mistaken that is pay to play and not free to play ( aka pay to win) most of the population will migrate on those servers and will be a lot of "returners" just for Aion Classic. My advice. Stop having expectations from GF and this version of Aion cause you will be just disappointed. Keep your horses for a bit while and let's hope Aion Classic will reach the EU soon. If GF will refuse to do it I am sure there will be another publisher out there that will find a legal way to bring Aion Classic to the EU or we move all to RU or NA.

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    Guys, soon classic will be up they will give you everything cause most of the players will leave this p2w system.


    If Aion Classic is proving to be a success and if I am not mistaken that is pay to play and not free to play ( aka pay to win) most of the population will migrate on those servers and will be a lot of "returners" just for Aion Classic.

    Hate to repeat myself over and over and over again, but ok, here we go.

    Following things are obvious, they are not proven but as far as they are obvious for different reasons they are more probably to happen than your dreams and wishes which are not obvious at all:


    1. Gameforge will run AION classic in Europe or no one will, because Gameforge and NC-Soft have active contracts about running any AION in Europe and Gameforge will not allow to have any competitors beside them in Europe and AION classic would definitely be a competitor to current AION


    2. there will be no pay to play model because Gameforge doesn´t run any pay to play systems in any of their hosted games, so they don´t have the infrastructure for it, they dont have the business model for it and -most important- they don´t have the need for it, because f2p + cash shop + RNG + p2w is doing good for them


    3. for the "long term goal" there will be the same p2w-RNG-stuff in cash shop that we have now, Gameforge is too smart to bring it at begin, but bit by bit when enough players are committed again to AION classic, it will come for sure because Gameforge simply earns too much money with it


    That´s the obvious things for AION classic, so hf with it..... ;)

    If the game is not built for p2w is hard to make it. Rember the times when GF took Aion from NCsoft from Europe they could not make it pay to win because the content of the game was not allowing it because was no designed as "free to play". Took years before they were able to make it p2w. They asked for all kinds of new features allowing them to monetize them. I do agree with you about GF will make everything possible to make a p2w game from Aion Classic but the question is if NCSoft will want to do that. They won't develop a separate branch of Aion Classic just for GF because there will be no more profit. So I am thinking that are chances


    1. GF won't publish at all Aion Classic [...]

    2. They will take in consideration to adapt theirs Bussines to pay to play model if they realize there will be a profit in it.


    How is going to be? No clue but I am sure of this:

    - NCSoft won't create a separate branch ( release) of Aion Classic just for GF

    - GF won't have any more updates on the release we are playing or they will be sporadic. There is no point to put money and effort into a product that is doomed when you have a new product that is a "shining star". How do I know that? I did pass through this kind of situation being in the background when a product launched, saw how it grows, and decommissioned the old one cause was losing money.



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    Quote from DragonhellPR

    If the game is not built for p2w is hard to make it. Rember the times when GF took Aion from NCsoft from Europe they could not make it pay to win because the content of the game was not allowing it because was no designed as "free to play".

    You and most others who hype AION classic europe are too much stuck in the past. Just because it WAS formerly hard/not possible to integrate p2w in early AION doesn´t mean that it isn´t possible in coming AION classic. Gameforge controls the cash shop and they can implement any (new?) psw-RNG-items they want.

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    Took years before they were able to make it p2w.

    Pretty sure they learned from this process and can do it faster now without problems.

    Quote from DragonhellPR

    I do agree with you about GF will make everything possible to make a p2w game from Aion Classic but the question is if NCSoft will want to do that.

    Like all business companys all NC-Soft wants is to earn money with AION classic europe with the least effort possible, so Gameforge will have mostly free hand like now.

    The magic of the unwanted:

    this morning this stigma was +14 .. I made an attempt at +15 and got +2 from one stone and stigma was straight +16 .-) then when enchanting other stigmas I accidentally cast this stigma again and .. -) ..fast click and did a successful enchantment and the stigma is now +17 .-)



    Quote from Yex

    The magic of the unwanted:

    this morning this stigma was +14 .. I made an attempt at +15 and got +2 from one stone and stigma was straight +16 .-) then when enchanting other stigmas I accidentally cast this stigma again and .. -) ..fast click and did a successful enchantment and the stigma is now +17 .-)



    Keep going and make it +255 and it will be much better than upgraded stigma 😉

    The stuff that GF is allowed to do on the game are so few, close to 0 ( officially) what happens in the backstage, that is another story. What GF can control are the events and they may ask for some minor change of the game content just for EU. If you look now the difference from EU/GF/KR is only on events but the content of the game is the same. I am not saying you might not be right, what I am saying there some stuff here that GF cant control, and maybe they won't buy the license for the game because Aion Classic != ( not equal) with Aion. Is a different product with a different license and this opens the pandora box and everything depends on what agreement has GF with NcSoft.


    PS:


    And this "quiet" about Aion Classic tells me that GF is actually in a discussion about it but then cant reach an agreement, yet!

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    Quote from Yex

    The magic of the unwanted:

    this morning this stigma was +14 .. I made an attempt at +15 and got +2 from one stone and stigma was straight +16 .-) then when enchanting other stigmas I accidentally cast this stigma again and .. -) ..fast click and did a successful enchantment and the stigma is now +17 .-)



    Keep going and make it +255 and it will be much better than upgraded stigma 😉

    . .-)) maybe it could be .-), but if I upgrade this stigma to improved, it will be the same impro as if it were +15 .. it's just the magic of the unwanted .-))

    Quote from Yex

    The magic of the unwanted:

    this morning this stigma was +14 .. I made an attempt at +15 and got +2 from one stone and stigma was straight +16 .-) then when enchanting other stigmas I accidentally cast this stigma again and .. -) ..fast click and did a successful enchantment and the stigma is now +17 .-)



    wtf lol keep going

    Quote from Esset23
    Quote from Galeas

    7.9 Release : Period in which fusing 3 legendary contracts can't give you a lower rank transformation. (News will be provided when it starts).

    Look, this guy from NA fuses 2 legendararies 18 times and gets nothing. Just imagine how much time is needed to farm all those transformations in EU.

    ha... you get sure ulti trans for just wasting 12 fusions in na. in korea it was 18 wasted transforms. that is what i call westernizing the game and gameforge could learn something from it. since the beginning of 6.2 i had around 20+ leg doubles from all the events and p2w stuff like elite rewards. that is a long period of time. i didn't get anything from that boss event because of too much lag and too much faction competition... so i imagine some made more.


    no matter that most ppl don't have all 10 basic unlocked and 12 leg doubles to spare... still no event like this is spotted in europe or ever discussed by the gameforge team. this is the most hardcore version of aion there is...

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    Quote from Galeas

    7.9 Release : Period in which fusing 3 legendary contracts can't give you a lower rank transformation. (News will be provided when it starts).

    Look, this guy from NA fuses 2 legendararies 18 times and gets nothing. Just imagine how much time is needed to farm all those transformations in EU.

    ha... you get sure ulti trans for just wasting 12 fusions in na. in korea it was 18 wasted transforms. that is what i call westernizing the game and gameforge could learn something from it. since the beginning of 6.2 i had around 20+ leg doubles from all the events and p2w stuff like elite rewards. that is a long period of time. i didn't get anything from that boss event because of too much lag and too much faction competition... so i imagine some made more.


    no matter that most ppl don't have all 10 basic unlocked and 12 leg doubles to spare... still no event like this is spotted in europe or ever discussed by the gameforge team. this is the most hardcore version of aion there is...

    think players in EU watching this would be crying ATM wasting all of these leg and nothing to show for it, but that's GF choice and I bet many on EU have done way more fuse and got nothing over the years very sad indeed.


    Blame GF for not doing anything but losing players due to nothing being done.

    Dont forget aion is ncs. There is a film showing "pay to play". Aion classis is a new "old game". Also noone knows what is regarded in contract between gf and ncs xD

    I will go there also, to try old aion, because didnt feel this times U all had - beta and up to 4.9 (i know classic will be 1.9 max or idk maybe 2.x ... i just explained what i meant)

    Sometime U nice posting here and regarding it very easy with very good emotions = U all liked and still like old aion. If i am wrong, such good emotions wouldnt exist :)

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    Only this week i wasted 19 legendary. I know naked new players that got 2 ereshkigal in contaminated hellpath🤷🤷🤷. I'm Happy for them but...... in my POV this is just frustrating

    I am always very skeptical when I hear these kind of stories.
    The naked new player conveniently joins the game when there is a good event. He reads the event description, immediately realises the importance of Ultimate Transformations, understands the hellpass mechanics in a blink of an eye and decides to farm the hell out of the hellpass ignoring everything else thats new to him.
    In my opinion this is more unlikely then actually gaining an Ultimate transfo.
    I guess if you know these people you are telling the truth but in 8/10 cases these new players are actually twinks or returnees, who also invested a lot of time into the game just like you.
    So don't get frustrated just because of that!!!

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    Quote from Mrjohns

    Only this week i wasted 19 legendary. I know naked new players that got 2 ereshkigal in contaminated hellpath🤷🤷🤷. I'm Happy for them but...... in my POV this is just frustrating

    I am always very skeptical when I hear these kind of stories.
    The naked new player conveniently joins the game when there is a good event. He reads the event description, immediately realises the importance of Ultimate Transformations, understands the hellpass mechanics in a blink of an eye and decides to farm the hell out of the hellpass ignoring everything else thats new to him.
    In my opinion this is more unlikely then actually gaining an Ultimate transfo.
    I guess if you know these people you are telling the truth but in 8/10 cases these new players are actually twinks or returnees, who also invested a lot of time into the game just like you.
    So don't get frustrated just because of that!!!

    Well you dont have to be, i play there with friends for almost year and half after a break and one friend (sin) quit at 7.0 patch. He came back two weeks before hell path did some runs with us to gear up then was going hell path with 4 chars and got ereshkial. He told us "check it out iam a princess" that was last time we saw him online :(