28.10.2020 on Korea

  • There's a lack of content as soon as people start playing any patch. Pve is unrewarding and pvp is either a gankfest or a stats battle.


    Pretty sure most will run dual clients with botting on main, current server, and "pvp" with twinks as I'm pretty sure everyone will get 80/80 GPs for the initial advantage.


    This will drive less tryhard new players to quit and it will gradually turn into the p2w casino of 7.x patches.


    All the whales from current servers will continue on that "classic" as I'm sure GF, staying true to their profile, will try to milk it as much as possible.


    100% manastone socketing, enchant stones, etc. I'm fairly certain it will not be 2.0 or 1.9 as that's difficult to monetize without significant changes to the shop.


    Nostalgia is already being catered by private servers [...]. They will continue doing so using all possible exploits and means at their disposal. Incoming botfest.



    Edit Olly : Out of ToS.

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  • Idk, how the monetization will be organized. Especially knowing the appetites of developers and publishers in terms of earning easy money (cash grabs).

    Btw, the female on the screenshot wears Mithril Coin gear.
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  • I think gameforge had a lot more profit from aion in older patches than all the patches after 6.0 Besides population and number of servers , older patches had something current patches doesn't have: Trading. Real trading, items, kinah, private shop, low fees etc. And this system was helping transactions between f2p players and coin sellers, the opposite of what's happening today.


    And with 6.0 came that genious mind that decided it was a good idea to remove kinah from drop and restrict 90% of trading in a mmorpg to counter bots / illegal goldsellers and kill that system, which... okey it wasn't the best system in the world, and yeah it went out of control in 5.8 , but it was helping both players and game monetization at same time. Then slowly shop turned into a casino with RNG boxes and even more RNG boxes and we all know how the story goes from there.


    No matter how you look at it, 6.0+ patches are so bad, strictly monetize charackter's speed, attack/cast speed, appearance, even the damn hp/mp pots (!!!). And most important doesn't give the f2p player any alternative, either pay or equip your binoculars to spot the other guys ahead of you in the endgame line... And removing all p2w crap only to reintroduce even more of them a few patches later.


    Older patches gave players that alternative of f2p and monetize the game at same time. It wasn't easy but it was possible to achieve endgame without paying. They though that forcing players to buy from shop and use GP as a currency was a good idea, and here we are, game's on it's sunset and NC winks you ressurection of old patches.


    No matter how bad a classic server will get monetized if it comes, it won't be even in the slightest as bad as current one.

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  • As far as people commented here "prepare for p2w".


    If there's gonna be p2w, people will simply not play. At most, there should be a gold-pack system, nothing else.


    If there's gonna be mega p2w there's no point in playing, might as well play retail then. It defeats the purpose of a classic server.

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  • Unfortunately there is no room for anything else than p2w system, especially in the slow progress classic version.

  • Unfortunately there is no room for anything else than p2w system, especially in the slow progress classic version.

    There is no point to be negative about everything, let's see what they decide to do first.

    If they wanna ruin their own chance at a classic by introducing heavy p2w then let them, We will judge once its done, and decide whether or not we wanna play on such a server.

    I hate stupid people.

  • If there's gonna be mega p2w there's no point in playing, might as well play retail then.

    I think we should not forget that this classic server might be supposed to replace the retail version.

    After Patch 7.7 it doesn't look like there are many more Updates to come. The next "update" after patch 7.7 might be the classic server. Just saying.

    I am still kinda hyped. I loved the slow paced and sidetracking leveling progess of the old patches. P2W can't destroy that. :-)

  • If they want to use an option there will be databases with each of the old patches these databases hold all the old accounts and chars for each patch so really there no need need to start from 0 if they are going to use a later patch to start with.


    This way they can also email all emails and show old players they gone back to a classic server and there old accounts are there it maybe would bring back a lot of old players.


    Going back that far NCSoft would have the databases for EU server, and I am sure they keep the databases.

  • If they want to use an option there will be databases with each of the old patches these databases hold all the old accounts and chars for each patch so really there no need need to start from 0 if they are going to use a later patch to start with.


    This way they can also email all emails and show old players they gone back to a classic server and there old accounts are there it maybe would bring back a lot of old players.


    Going back that far NCSoft would have the databases for EU server, and I am sure they keep the databases.

    Yeah, good idea. They will pull up a database from 10 years ago, give you geared chars and then... not make $$$ from you.


    That make sense.

  • well it would sort out a lot of the mess and they could start with the 2nd or 3rd patch as the release patch is where there was most players who did accounts so not to far ahead then the release patch.


    This way everyone wont be major geared and everyone can have a great time with at least something to start from.

  • This way they can also email all emails and show old players they gone back to a classic server and there old accounts are there it maybe would bring back a lot of old players.

    Going back that far NCSoft would have the databases for EU server, and I am sure they keep the databases.

    Ever heard of gdpr?

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  • Srsly, the wish for some kind of classic server with old patch status is just the wish of few ppl who just can´t let go the so called "good old times", nothing more.


    The hard facts are:

    - it won´t bring actual active players there who play the last patch and probably play AION for years, those players want new stuff and not some kind of old cheese they already played for months or years. Tbh I play AIOn for the last 8 1/2 years without break and I can´t imagine any patch that was just good, all the patches had good stuff and bad stuff and playing old patches again won´t make them better


    - it won´t bring ppl back who already have quit AION, because no one quits AION just because of a new patch or two, most ppl quit AION because they played it so long to get bored, because they want to play new other games or because they don´t like the policy of Gameforge, so these ppl have absolutely no reason to come back on a classic server


    - it won´t attract new players, the reason is obviously, why should someone start a game on a patch that is years old when he/she can start the actual patch? Maybe some old patches were better than the actual patch but a new AIOn player won´t know this, so there is no reason to start on a classic server. And on the actual patch the gap between veterans and newbies is already that big that most newbies test AION and quit it forever despite a classic server


    An AION classic server will suffer the same destiny as the Early Access Server, first many ppl are enthusiastic, because there is something new (I mean old in our case), but soon the old patch on classic server gets boring, ppl leave and classic server is dead because most ppl played that old patch years ago


    Gameforge would be the only winner with a classic server like they are the only winner with EAS, old players make new accounts there and have to buy gold packs because playing without gold pack is pure cancer on every server, on live server, on EAS and on classic server. I have over 3 years premium time on my account, I sure won´t make an account on classic server and buy more premium time there..... ;)

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    I think Gameforge analyzed the situation on the activity of players on free servers. There is a very big audience. You can see this by looking at streaming services...

    Gameforge is most loyal official localizer in terms of business model.

  • Srsly, the wish for some kind of classic server with old patch status is just the wish of few ppl who just can´t let go the so called "good old times", nothing more.

    like a "few" wants the korean sounds & language ?:pillepalle:

    Something like that can only bring someone as an argument because he is afraid of the current server.:facepalm:

    That when the classic comes, they are not populated enough?

    Maybe even that a merge is needed to make them playable again?


    The hard facts are:

    - it won´t bring actual active players there who play the last patch and probably play AION for years, those players want new stuff and not some kind of old cheese they already played for months or years. Tbh I play AIOn for the last 8 1/2 years without break and I can´t imagine any patch that was just good, all the patches had good stuff and bad stuff and playing old patches again won´t make them better

    the only "Facts" are:


    older patches had something current patches doesn't have: Trading. Real trading, items, kinah, private shop, low fees etc. And this system was helping transactions between f2p players and coin sellers, the opposite of what's happening today.

    :beer::thumbup:

    - it won´t bring ppl back who already have quit AION, because no one quits AION just because of a new patch or two, most ppl quit AION because they played it so long to get bored, because they want to play new other games or because they don´t like the policy of Gameforge, so these ppl have absolutely no reason to come back on a classic server

    Let it come ...

    When this starts we will all see what happens in real.:/

    - it won´t attract new players, the reason is obviously, why should someone start a game on a patch that is years old when he/she can start the actual patch? Maybe some old patches were better than the actual patch but a new AIOn player won´t know this, so there is no reason to start on a classic server. And on the actual patch the gap between veterans and newbies is already that big that most newbies test AION and quit it forever despite a classic server

    Because the new players start on the classic and therefore do not lag behind that which they will never catch up with >Veterans in the current ones?:chair:

    Because everyone starts with classic at zero?:good:

    When the players play the actual and former story

    and learn to understand what they have experienced?

    is that so bad?

    An AION classic server will suffer the same destiny as the Early Access Server, first many ppl are enthusiastic, because there is something new (I mean old in our case), but soon the old patch on classic server gets boring, ppl leave and classic server is dead because most ppl played that old patch years ago

    That is clearly wrong because EAS is and remains a server just to look into the new patches and to find the bugs for Gameforge!

    We are probably cheaper than a GF team? ...:whip:

    Gameforge would be the only winner with a classic server like they are the only winner with EAS, old players make new accounts there and have to buy gold packs because playing without gold pack is pure cancer on every server, on live server, on EAS and on classic server. I have over 3 years premium time on my account, I sure won´t make an account on classic server and buy more premium time there..... ;)

    What?

    You can now play on all servers without extra

    Paying premium time for other servers.:good:

    Why should a new one need new/other time be countet for this account?

    That is not logical ...:nono:




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    And again on the matter, they have simply deleted so many areas and made them unplayable, they have so much of what the players had and what was earned from them.

    All gone.

    no fun if you don't cash ..etc.


    yes what we have now is like your name says: is not my Aion

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  • Btw, the female on the screenshot wears Mithril Coin gear.

    I want this ! There exists many, many others beautiful skins <3


    current patches doesn't have: Trading. Real trading, items, kinah, private shop, low fees etc. And this system was helping transactions between f2p players and coin sellers, the opposite of what's happening today.

    I dont want to kinah trade back.

    Neverfelt - close to everything from Ur post is very interesting and also true and i agree.

    Why this quote? I also agree with it, but please - not kinah ability in trade.

  • This way they can also email all emails and show old players they gone back to a classic server and there old accounts are there it maybe would bring back a lot of old players.

    Going back that far NCSoft would have the databases for EU server, and I am sure they keep the databases.

    Ever heard of gdpr?

    I know what gdpr stands for but when you sign up to play Aion you sign them over in a lot of ways.


    When each of us signed up to have an account we signed up to NCsoft policy then Gf policy which still has NCsoft attached to it due to NCsoft owning the rights to the game and GF only hosting it for them.


    look at the contract we all sign to play Aion.

  • current patches doesn't have: Trading. Real trading, items, kinah, private shop, low fees etc. And this system was helping transactions between f2p players and coin sellers, the opposite of what's happening today.

    I dont want to kinah trade back.

    Neverfelt - close to everything from Ur post is very interesting and also true and i agree.

    Why this quote? I also agree with it, but please - not kinah ability in trade.

    Can i ask you why you don't want kinah ability in trade?

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  • EAS is and remains a server just to look into the new patches and to find the bugs for Gameforge!

    and yet GF tried to make money out of this. Imagine what will happen to a classic server.

  • current patches doesn't have: Trading. Real trading, items, kinah, private shop, low fees etc. And this system was helping transactions between f2p players and coin sellers, the opposite of what's happening today.

    I dont want to kinah trade back.

    Neverfelt - close to everything from Ur post is very interesting and also true and i agree.

    Why this quote? I also agree with it, but please - not kinah ability in trade.

    Can i ask you why you don't want kinah ability in trade?

    Farming kinah is very basic thing in Aion and this is normal. Problem is when kinah is becoming someone's real good and uses it to illegal trade - everyone knows, that all rights belongs to NCSoft and in EU for GF as a developer.

    (i tried google translate)