28.10.2020 on Korea - Classic Server Discussions

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    There was someone in the Aion team that leaked they believe that classic is close of being announced in EU as well. So it could be coming in the Q4 of this year.

    Thats very interesting gossip.
    Would you mind going into further detail?

    A particular streamer said and i quote: "I've been told we can announce soonish"

    That streamer gave you wrong information. We didn't give any information to any streamer nor there was any leak.

    Galeas


    So by replying as you have you know a lot more then you are saying here? why cant anyone from Gf just give us a little info. from what I see I don't think it will come to EU and GF is hiding that fact.

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    Galeas


    So by replying as you have you know a lot more then you are saying here? why cant anyone from Gf just give us a little info. from what I see I don't think it will come to EU and GF is hiding that fact.

    We will give a bit more info when possible. It is not cancelled as we speak now. If it would be, we would tell you. But it is not confirmed either that we will get it.

    Galeas

    i think what Babydots want mean is for example i asked what technical problem you have

    And you answer you don't want to go into details but if you don't say anything about the technical problem you increase our impression that we won't have classic server

    I hope you will understand better the feeling of Babydots

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    Galeas


    So by replying as you have you know a lot more then you are saying here? why cant anyone from Gf just give us a little info. from what I see I don't think it will come to EU and GF is hiding that fact.

    We will give a bit more info when possible. It is not cancelled as we speak now. If it would be, we would tell you. But it is not confirmed either that we will get it.

    Galeas


    Thank you for the reply


    but why does it seem only GF is having these issues others areas are now releasing info they will get it what's so diff with GF to other areas ?

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    Galeas

    i think what Babydots want mean is for example i asked what technical problem you have

    And you answer you don't want to go into details but if you don't say anything about the technical problem you increase our impression that we won't have classic server

    I hope you will understand better the feeling of Babydots

    Yes, I understand. that's why we will probably explain what the technical difficulties are soon. Checking with the Team to post a bit more information.

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    Galeas

    i think what Babydots want mean is for example i asked what technical problem you have

    And you answer you don't want to go into details but if you don't say anything about the technical problem you increase our impression that we won't have classic server

    I hope you will understand better the feeling of Babydots

    Yes, I understand. that's why we will probably explain what the technical difficulties are soon. Checking with the Team to post a bit more information.

    I think, this will explain many people what is going on in this case. I am curious also

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    Galeas


    Thank you for the reply


    but why does it seem only GF is having these issues others areas are now releasing info they will get it what's so diff with GF to other areas ?

    Not all areas are free of issues if you pay attention and some of those didn't really give a date. We would rather be sure we can actually have it before posting a teaser saying "soon".

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    Galeas

    i think what Babydots want mean is for example i asked what technical problem you have

    And you answer you don't want to go into details but if you don't say anything about the technical problem you increase our impression that we won't have classic server

    I hope you will understand better the feeling of Babydots

    Yes, I understand. that's why we will probably explain what the technical difficulties are soon. Checking with the Team to post a bit more information.

    Thank you for now checking with the team to post more info that's all we have been asking.

    Seeing other areas saying they are getting it the videos going round that really confirm that and we sit here know nothing only some tech issues is not the way to be treating us.

    Galeas


    Other areas would not be posting the video which was the video of the release of KR if they did not know they would get it. Its also posted in many places.


    why would GF leave its player base knowing nothing yet other areas are addressing this.

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    why would GF leave its player base knowing nothing yet other areas are addressing this.

    Im wondering this also lol. I was just watching all this show from the side and I have a feeling something is going on... ;)

    So what? So is everyone else...

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    why would GF leave its player base knowing nothing yet other areas are addressing this.

    Im wondering this also lol. I was just watching all this show from the side and I have a feeling something is going on... ;)

    if they cant make a deal or the future of game is not clear they dont wanna make announcement i think its simple as that, u wouldnt want to promise to deliver smth n not deliver like platinerk system or whatva it was called, if im not mistaken galeas said they didnt know classic was there until it was public already so ncsoft had little to no interest in us so its prolly up to gameforge to make it happen

    It's amazing that no one has a clue to actually what is going on.


    Hi, name is Unbeatable and I'm from NA. Maybe some of you know me through word of mouth as a player and others might have watched some of my very infrequent streaming in the past.


    I've recently played on the Korean classic for a few months, and have basically called out everything that has taken place up to now.


    So, with that said, I just wanted to shine some light for you guys.


    Gameforge does not have the rights to publish an Aion Classic server. It's simple as that.


    Gameforge took over Aion from NCsoft in the 2.7 expansion. Gameforge's contract with NCSoft is for NCSoft to provide them all content that's available in Korea, starting from the moment they took over, and that was back in 2.7. That means, that any sort of patch or expansion that comes out in the retail version, such as the 8.0 expansion that is coming... Gameforge will get as it is part of their contract.


    Korean Aion Classic however is version 1.2-2.7. These are versions that Gameforge never hosted and never had a contract to publish. It is a whole different entity compared to the current retail version, and one that Gameforge does not have the rights to publish.


    So when these moderators of yours tell you "it's in the works", it means that they are trying to make a deal with NCSoft to get the publishing rights.


    But here is the catch. Will NCSoft sell those publishing rights to Gameforge? Maybe, but highly unlikely.


    Why? If you know NCSoft as well as I do, they're a money hungry company. To them money is everything, just as it should be for any company to be successful. Why would a company that has underestimated the success of the Aion Classic in Korea, sell their publishing rights to a company and make them rich.... when they can just deny the publishing rights to Gameforge, and have the Europeans play in NA and make themselves (NCSoft) rich instead?


    Hopefully that opens up your eyes as to what is happening behind the scenes and how you should approach your classic experience.


    Unbeatable

    like a genius man once said:


    "speaking words of wisdom, let it be"

    Hi Unbeatable.

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    Gameforge took over Aion from NCsoft in the 2.7 expansion. Gameforge's contract with NCSoft is for NCSoft to provide them all content that's available in Korea, starting from the moment they took over, and that was back in 2.7. That means, that any sort of patch or expansion that comes out in the retail version, such as the 8.0 expansion that is coming... Gameforge will get as it is part of their contract.


    Korean Aion Classic however is version 1.2-2.7. These are versions that Gameforge never hosted and never had a contract to publish. It is a whole different entity compared to the current retail version, and one that Gameforge does not have the rights to publish.

    We already know that. BUT although NC-Soft and Gameforge couldn´t have made a contract at that time about non-excisting AION Classic, I am pretty sure they have a general clause in their contract, that there can´t be ANY other AION publisher in europe beside Gameforge. Gameforge would have been stupid if they hadn´t fixed that. So I stay with my opinion that Gameforge will host AION Classic in europe or no one will.


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    But here is the catch. Will NCSoft sell those publishing rights to Gameforge? Maybe, but highly unlikely.


    Why? If you know NCSoft as well as I do, they're a money hungry company.

    If they are money hungry that´s just one more reason to sell the rights to Gameforge, because it´s easy money like the last 9 years without much work. Would make no sense to let that money go by not selling the rights for AION Classic europe.


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    when they can just deny the publishing rights to Gameforge, and have the Europeans play in NA and make themselves (NCSoft) rich instead?

    Gameforge is negotiating with NC Soft Korea and not NC Soft NA and as far as I understood NC Soft Korea and NC Soft NA are different companies. Why should NC Soft Korea deny to earn some extra money from AION Classic europe to make NC Soft NA richer?


    Don´t get me wrong, just my 5 cents to that topic, I personally won´t play any AION Classic no matter if in europe or NA, so inside I hope you are right and not me.... ;)

    I already said this but many said I was wrong, if you look back at the start of this topic.


    I even said why would ncsoft give the rights up to GF when really all the work has already been done for EU under NC west ncsoft could make a great deal of money if they kept classic themselves.


    Then came the move of servers for Aion NA which was also interesting, if you looked at classic.


    But saying that there will still be a ping issue for players in the EU so that would need to be addressed.

    Right of publishing are not a problem.