• There are players who wanna do active pvp, just login and do pvp all day and then logout.

    Then there are people who dont give a fk about pvp and only wants to gear up.

    Two different kinda player gameplays. One of these gameplays are smoked out from this game.

  • Pvp is mainly ganking in this game, let's not get it twisted. That's how it started when the servers went live and that's how it will continue.


    The difference was, you could fight back, back then, if you focused your efforts into pvp gear. Now, there's 10 other game features needing equal attention.

  • Long story short,in pvp if you have maxed out gear aka armors wep, stigmas skills +15 etc, you are "S-Tier" whatever class you are and can feel like u r the best especialy when u go against lower geared people.

    Pvp wise its not 3-4.x anymore when for example even strife gear was enough against archon geared ppl.

    Now its all about gear so "whales" will spend cash just so they can try max everything then doing pvp against lower geared ppl for some easy ego boost.

    Plus "end game" pvp is a joke really, i would not call such thing "pvp" when a guy jumps in uses 3-4 skill and u r already under 25% hp or dead even if you have full 15 armors.

    But its just my opinion, maybe my problem is that i've played in old patches where pvp was slower and was not about who rolls his head faster on the keyboard like some classes do now.

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  • There's so much complaint and hate towards the game on this forum, yet I bet all of you still play it. It's beyond me why you guys can't just have fun with your friends and enjoy the game for what it is.

    Every thread I read is a complaint about something. I also agree the game is not in it's best state, but you guys should stop with all the negativity maaan.

    Says a kaisinel owner.


    I would enjoy the game much more if I had an ultimate form as well.

    Not sure about that, still feels like garbage with 1... Tho it might be because 0 impro stigs (cus luck is a B*, did buy them on multi accos like everyone else) Form that everyone should already have doesnt make it much better with all the other stupid things around... Just makes it bit more tolerable.

  • Not sure about that, still feels like garbage with 1... Tho it might be because 0 impro stigs (cus luck is a B*, did buy them on multi accos like everyone else) Form that everyone should already have doesnt make it much better with all the other stupid things around... Just makes it bit more tolerable.

    The answer is

    Quote from Alucinor

    Class
    Sorcerer

    I hate stupid people.

  • Ultimate transformation is pretty much overrated. The big difference comes from best gear, enchantments, stigma enchantment, deavanion skill enchantment, minion, cubes, etc... if you have an ult transformation and stil mediocre gear etc then people still faceroll you with a few hits... while you still do chip dmg... just faster, lol.


    This game is a big gatcha/mobile game fail since 6.0 but people sayed that often enough, they won´t change this because Aion is just a milk machine now. I think they didn´t even expect it to run this long after 6.0 as they just wanted to milk it for other projects.

  • Ultimate transformation is pretty much overrated.

    Alright, first sentence and no one can take you seriously anymore already.

    While obviously gear is more important, gear is easy to get. Ultimate transformation makes a HUGE difference between two max gear players.

    I hate stupid people.

  • Pvp is mainly ganking in this game, let's not get it twisted. That's how it started when the servers went live and that's how it will continue.


    The difference was, you could fight back, back then, if you focused your efforts into pvp gear. Now, there's 10 other game features needing equal attention.

    I'm doing just that, created a second character and now I'm focusing the painter (damage) for pvp and the bard (healing) for pve.


    And continuing with the topic, tier list, since I've only used those classes and considering the pattern of enemies I've faced and with limited info, I would put it like this:


    Bard better than painter

    Gladiator better than templar

    Spiritmaster better than sorcerer

    Ranger better than assasin

    Aethertech better than gunner

    Cleric better than chanter


    Now, the top 3 in difficulty to deal with (in my experience) have been:


    1- Aethertech

    2- Bard

    3- Gunner


    For some reason I haven't seen a bad aethertech, those are sturdy. Then the bard and the gunner make an absurd amount of damage.

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  • Even for classes that don't use casting speed at all the difference is massive.

    Atkspeed slow barely slow you on ulti form (especially kaisinel) same for running speed slow.

    I hate stupid people.

  • (Do we really need to speak about sin under hide running faster than you?

    With apostle, they are already at 11.8...)

    guess what, with candy on top of that 12.0 :)

    Yeah I know, playing with a sin with apostle, while I still have Veille at best xD


    Always making fun of me xD


    Don't do a lot a pvp, but it triggers me to be outrun by everyone else xD

  • Should be a bit lower dps class Gladiator - i mean about 1.5% to 2% for every big dps skills. All others things R balanced - in my opinion the most balanced class for now.


    Class Chanter needs some dps boost about 1.5% to 2%. Now he has nice sustain, but a bit low dps.


    Idk, i am thinking like i descripted :)

  • PvE: Painter/AT/Gunner/Sorc/Cleric/SM/Assa (+ bard if you have a magic dps focused setup) are S tier.

    Glad/Temp/Ranger/Chanter (+ bard if you have a phys dps focused setup) are trash tier since it's not optimal and can be replaced by better dps outputs.

    I hate stupid people.

  • PvE: Painter/AT/Gunner/Sorc/Cleric/SM/Assa (+ bard if you have a magic dps focused setup) are S tier.

    Glad/Temp/Ranger/Chanter (+ bard if you have a phys dps focused setup) are trash tier since it's not optimal and can be replaced by better dps outputs.

    Templar Trash tier in pve? Lol, okay