Worth it to download Aion again

    You had to secure your bonus and gamble it on lamps, 1 lamp out of 11.000 gave kaisinel on average.


    Quote from Yolento

    - When someone said, "Yolento, you have to leave" and the rest agreed, in stella laboratory.

    That's super rude considering your group was really bad if they couldn't do stella with this kind of gear (or better since you were probably the less geared one)

    Stella is far from endgame

    I hate stupid people.

    Yeah but new/returned player cant gain at least half of these points because of lack of kinah (very good if after 1 month such player has 100kk but very low possibility and this is only maybe for 1 GP) and almost 0 leg/ulti enchant stones for merciless or intense battle set. Summary, you had a lot of resources and a bit of luck (i was farming the lamps too for all chars, not even got 7-th level).

    Quote from Aura

    That's super rude considering your group was really bad if they couldn't do stella with this kind of gear (or better since you were probably the less geared one)

    Stella is far from endgame

    True. Stella easy is actually solo/duo-doable with end-game gear and stella normal easy for 4 people with such gear but you need just a brain ;) If 6-man party cant finish these instances because of one of dps classes then it means tank or healer is at least very bad, lol (i skip that even one very good dps with tank and heal/dispel can finish it pretty easy now).


    Well, before patch 7.5 when i was doing stella easy with random people with full ulti +15 still ~50% runs were unable to finish for insignia chest because the majority of these randoms totally dont know mechanics of bosses (so many facepalms) and had poor dps (i was tank with first/second dps there...). Such runs with only 1 guy with the brain could be pretty fast (15-20 min max). Such a digression ;P

    Quote from Replay33

    just curious , but all the ppl that said "no" here, are you also active in game ? :) or just use forums ?

    we just use forums waiting for classic aion .

    retail servers are empty last time i played ran around for 3 hours in serch of pvp all i found was bots guess that counts towards active player count lol and only time u see players is during siege and even then is funny 2 see 1 cash mule running over 20 people like he is snowboarding on his creadit card over all free2play people

    it's sad to see the state of game even the aion community (europe) does not recommend this game.

    Quote from ravenshifter

    it's sad to see the state of game even the aion community (europe) does not recommend this game.

    This is not the community, these are people which are not recommending but still playing... suspicious ain't it? Not to mention the ones that are acting unpleased are the loudest while others are just playing the game and having fun instead of losing their time with senseless hate... ;)

    ~We become what we believe~

    Quote from Khrysto
    Quote from ravenshifter

    it's sad to see the state of game even the aion community (europe) does not recommend this game.

    This is not the community, these are people which are not recommending but still playing... suspicious ain't it? Not to mention the ones that are acting unpleased are the loudest while others are just playing the game and having fun instead of losing their time with senseless hate... ;)

    Community is not only you so stop thought your opinion represents the community.

    Even on the group of aion eu community/reddit/youtube ... they don't recommend the game.

    Edited once, last by NekoMujuuryoku ().

    Quote from Khrysto

    This is not the community, these are people which are not recommending but still playing... suspicious ain't it? Not to mention the ones that are acting unpleased are the loudest while others are just playing the game and having fun instead of losing their time with senseless hate... ;)

    Gotta love how you say that all the ppl complaining are just spreading "senseless hate" but you didn't gave any valid reason why the game would still be good


    Also

    Quote from Razor
    Quote from Replay33

    just curious , but all the ppl that said "no" here, are you also active in game ? :) or just use forums ?

    we just use forums waiting for classic aion .

    Quote from Khrysto

    This is not the community

    This is what left of the community*


    Quote from Khrysto

    these are people which are not recommending but still playing... suspicious ain't it?

    Not at all. Have you ever met any smoker that recommends smoking? Everyone here keeps playing for their own reasons. If they recommend it or not thats a whole different story. This is a forum, people saying their opinion. If you'd like to see only positive things about it, then go watch an advertise.


    Quote from Khrysto

    the ones that are acting unpleased

    The only actor here is you buddy. And a very bad one. One of the worst performances i have ever seen. Change career.

    Legend of the Kaisinel Temple

    Quote from Neverfelt

    Everyone here keeps playing for their own reasons. If they recommend it or not thats a whole different story.

    Well, I dare to say that most MMORPG players tend to complain at some point about "their" game for one reason or another. For me Aion is a habit, I don't expect that there'll be huge changes and I'm not as nostalgic in regard of 1.x either. Let's say I don't miss levelling for ages or Draupnir Cave... at all.


    Aion is a game that requires lots of time and effort (and luck) - or investing into it to get close to the top. If people just want to play a bit they might be still content though, considering it's relatively easy nowadays to achieve basic gear for all basic instances.

    In the past of Aion it had been easier to compensate gear differences with individual skill, nowadays that hardly applies anymore. On the other hand doing fine is easier to achieve as well - most classes became easier from 6.x onwards. Of course you'll still meet lots of people that behave like Aion is the hardest game to play.


    Some stuff became more covenient (like levelling, skills etc), some interesting features were removed (e.g. Gold Arena or other incentives to do PvP), PvE is mostly based on artificial difficulties, the character design is nice and there're various possibilities, there are no gender/race locks (but well, Asmodians/Elyos mostly look the same nowadays anyway), "old" content is usually removed after some time (including most flight zones, maps, instances etc), the story is dull, quite a bit of important items rely on events, playing multiple characters is rather difficult due to beneficial items that require lots of time to achieve (...)


    But in the end people always ask "is it worth?" or "why do you play it?" - and you have to find your own reason and resolution.I tend to try out quite a bunch of MMOs and I decide whether I want to play them or not. It's as simple as that.

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    Quote from Sleepyhead

    I dare to say the MMORPG players have a very valid reason to complain about their games and it tells us quite a bit about this genre nowdays

    Well, I didn't elaborate on validity. MMOs weren't developped over the last years as much anymore. Lately I read an article about fulfilling the users' various needs, the lack of innovation and profitability.

    At the same time society changed at some point (regarding how time is handled and e.g. alternative 'gaming hardware' such as mobile phones) and there are few MMOs that survive by name. On the other hand people tend to argue that a different approach on everything related to payment would preserve or attract more users (e.g. resulting in Pay to Play, Buy to Play, pricing etc). Dunno if anyone analyzed this matter yet, probably, but I didn't take a deeper look into it until now. However, I don't want to get too much into OT.


    In fact most of us probably "grew up" with MMOs, but most players in Aion seem to be somewhere between 20 and 30+ and we have "seen it all" to some extend. That's one reason why nostalgia is so highly valued. It seemed to be so exciting back then when we where at a different point - and it's of course about people. I've as well met tons of people over the last (nearly) 9 years in Aion. Some return, some don't. Compared to back then the chat seems less toxic and my blacklist became shorter (well, I doubt I matured significantly). :tee: I wasn't happy about everything and I do criticize quit a bunch of things (partly mentioned before already), but we can see how many things changed after criticism over the last years (well, some did - if they were customized). Still, I don't regret playing Aion.

    Of course it's comfortable though to have veteran rewards, tons of characters etc. :ninja: but it's a matter of intention.

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    Quote from Sirkka

    But in the end people always ask "is it worth?" or "why do you play it?" - and you have to find your own reason and resolution.I tend to try out quite a bunch of MMOs and I decide whether I want to play them or not. It's as simple as that.

    People who ask these questions don't have the time to play through every MMORPG there is. They want to play a decent game from the start.
    Furthermore they ask these questions to figure out the health of the playerbase.
    This trail and error appoach you are suggesting is tedious af.
    Besides "is Aion worth playing?" is an easy question to answer. The game is dying bc there are not many more patches left to come. So it is not worth to invest a lot of time into Aion to built up a character. Thats what these questions are all about. You can't have a second opinion about this.

    We don't even make it to questions about personal preferences anymore.


    However there are playerbases which can actually recommend there games. It makes way more sense to try these games out first.

    Quote from Servercrash

    You can't have a second opinion about this.

    I think you didn't get to the bottom of the term "opinion". Opinions are subjective and not viewed as facts (and the assumption made towards the end is just an assumption in the end). You can certainly empathize that your opinion in the best one, but that's about it.

    Quote from Servercrash

    (...) don't have the time (...)

    That's a big matter in MMORPGs nowadays. Nobody seems to have the time, but MMORPGs are simply taking time. If people have no time to find out things themselves (this includes reading a forum by the way) I may recommend them not to look for an MMORPG. Most likely.

    Furthermore I don't know an MMORPG that's free from criticism. People can share their opinions (yes, there are various ones), arguments and find a conclusion - but that remains as subjective as the decision you make while reading it.


    So even if we had the same conclusion (or a similar one), I wouldn't agree with your reasoning like that.

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    Simple answer: No.

    Quote from Sirkka

    (well, I doubt I matured significantly)

    No. You're still as quirky as ever. :ninja:

    Quote from Sirkka

    That's a big matter in MMORPGs nowadays. Nobody seems to have the time, but MMORPGs are simply taking time. If people have no time to find out things themselves (this includes reading a forum by the way) I may recommend them not to look for an MMORPG. Most likely.

    There's the problem that arised due to the ever encroaching P2W bollocks: (Most) MMORPGs stopped respecting the time you've spent playing them. That's especially true for literally every (!) south-korean MMORPG. In fact, Aion was quite special (especially during late 3.x/early 4.x) in that regard since it was perfectly fine in respecting the time you've spent playing the game until NCSoft started implementing bollocks from 4.8 onwards. Besides that, the overbearing lottery/RNG-aspects suck.


    In that regard, I can only agree with this statement:

    Quote from Servercrash

    The game is dying bc there are not many more patches left to come. So it is not worth to invest a lot of time into Aion to built up a character. Thats what these questions are all about. You can't have a second opinion about this.

    There's no reason to play a dead game whose only aim is to wring out the last bit of money of its players. Well, that's south-korean MMORPGs in a nutshell though. Maybe Elyon will be nice, but they'll probably ruin it by some bollocky P2W-favoring game design or crazy P2W bollocks itself.

    I haven't said anything about your performances in game so idk why so salty... I am just stating my opinion as everyone else ;)

    Quote from ravenshifter
    Quote from Khrysto
    Quote from ravenshifter

    it's sad to see the state of game even the aion community (europe) does not recommend this game.

    This is not the community, these are people which are not recommending but still playing... suspicious ain't it? Not to mention the ones that are acting unpleased are the loudest while others are just playing the game and having fun instead of losing their time with senseless hate... ;)

    Community is not only you so stop thought your opinion represents the community.

    Even on the group of aion eu community/reddit/youtube ... they don't recommend the game.

    The one that are not recommending as same hadfull of people being loud everywhere and they do not represent community either by my knowledge...

    ~We become what we believe~

    Quote from Khrysto

    I haven't said anything about your performances in game so idk why so salty...

    Neither did i. I said performance in acting. Not in game. Don't try mix the words to alter the meaning if you run out of arguments.



    Quote from Khrysto

    I am just stating my opinion as everyone else ;)

    If your opinion is that you like current patches, then that opinion is fine by me. Your insults and your toxic behavor are unnecessary.

    Legend of the Kaisinel Temple

    Quote from Khrysto

    The one that are not recommending as same hadfull of people being loud everywhere and they do not represent community either by my knowledge...

    So who represents the community? only you?

    Because when I hear you, you think that negative opinions are just cry people about aion.

    And also whether you want it or not the people who left the game are also part of the community because they also played at one time at AION and this is not you who decides to say that their opinions don't count.

    And also last thing stop believing that you are superior to everyone else because you pissed me off insulted about people's intelligence.

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