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  • 5.0 had no incentive to roam around the map

    6.0 had no incentive to roam around the map

    7.0 Altars is 10mn twice a day, and its more like Raid vs Raid and not Player vs Player.


    Let me ask you a simple question, would you do the instances if all the bosses had zero drops?

    Probably not, so don't ask pvp players to do pvp without any rewards.

    I hate stupid people.

  • sadly it doesnt matter what you change to the game as long as the number of player keeps decreasing, game will be :censored:.

    Even this patch would be playable if we had the same numbers as in 4.x/5.x.



    Profanity.


    - Zapiel

    Edited once, last by Noraj ().

  • None of the patches have been designed to pvp in a LONG time.

    Depends from the point of view, yours or the developer and publisher. They are designed for pvp but very poorly and mostly for those who pay.


    PvP was active when gear was more affordable, when it was easier to get and you could do it without the help of the cash shop. Now the pvp is hindered behind getting gear that takes forever to farm. Then there is class imbalance, stigma slots, daevanion skills, transforms, collections, better manastones, minions, luna.


    You farm for a year to get prepared for pvp, only that you still get 3 shot from p2w players or players who play on a million veteran alt accounts and you get discouraged to pvp again. Bring back affordable gear and skills equality and players are more willing to pvp. It's that simple. Then you have dailies and weeklies that killed all the casuals, or players that can play only in some days or weeks. Even active players, those that play every day feel that they are not getting rewarded for their efforts, but you still have to play every day to not get left behind. Then p2w is another story, besides the main issues with the game.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  • 6.0 have killing quests for genesis crystal if I'm not wrong.

    7.0 have killing quests for stellium if I'm not wrong.

    What's your define of PvP ? 1-1 ? then you better go arena for it.

    I'm confusing what you really want o_O

    Plus I didn't say new update won't have a PvP map we will but we're more focus on PvE that's all.

  • What are you doing with your thousands of genesis crystal? nothing.

    So back to point 1: No incentive to roam around the map.

    What are you doing with your thousands of stelliums? nothing.

    So back to point 1: No incentive to roam around the map.


    And even if you're in one of the legions that can spend their stelliums in the coupons, the pvp quests for stellium are very unrewarding considering the little amount it gives compared to the hours needed to find 15 kills in those deserted parts of the map.

    People rather do their pve stellium quests that can be completed in 5 minutes and give 3 times the amount of stelliums.


    If you just want to lock yourself in an instance, you can already do it now. Every instance is super easy besides maybe prome HM and Stella NM (and they both have an easy version for you to gear up) and the new thing benirunerk manor is just not made to be completed on this patch. (like SWB was back in 4.2)


    So i'm asking again, would you do instances if the bosses had zero drops?

    I hate stupid people.

  • Just helping you what to do with genesis and stellium.

    https://aionpowerbook.com/powerbook/Item/152012768

    https://aionpowerbook.com/powerbook/Item/164010028


    Not going to argue with you anymore since it's out of topic and people don't want to see people fighting over stupid thing such as were previous patches designed for PvP or not.


    I made my point already so did you.I see no point to discuss this anymore.

    But if you want to discuss how to make this game better I'm more than welcome to discuss about it,but for now this argument is over thank you. :)

  • Your two powerbook links are not helping and show how little you know about this game, i guess thats a side effect of locking yourself in instances for years.

    I hate stupid people.

  • What are you doing with your thousands of genesis crystal? nothing.

    You can do lots of things. You can buy gear to extract it for fragments that are never enough. After that you can buy gear to sell it to npc for kinah. In KR they had event to buy those breath fragments for combining ancient and legendary contracts. In 7.5 will be more useful, to buy some needed materials or directly red equipment. I don't know if there is an event or game addition in KR but you could get daevanion insignias from boxes. There is never enough genesis crystals imo.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  • What are you doing with your thousands of genesis crystal? nothing.

    You can do lots of things. You can buy gear to extract it for fragments that are never enough. After that you can buy gear to sell it to npc for kinah.

    I'm just gonna quote that part as the rest is about something that we dont have.


    If i use all my genesis crystals that i saved up since the beginning of 7.0 (im doing garrisons quest every week), which is around 15000, i would barely get ~600 fragments

    If you feel like this is "rewarding", i would have to disagree, thats barely enough to upgrade wings.

    This is litteraly a drop of water in the desert.

    Active players agree with me through their actions as no one is doing the daily pvp quests in lakrum.

    I hate stupid people.

  • One thing I wish Aion had: some enjoyable and meaningful way to PVP (arenas, battlefields, sieges, open world pvp, tournaments).


    That means:

    - being satisfied by being 'more skilled' (or 'luckier' with class matchup/ terrain or anything) than the opponent

    - getting some reward that you can use to finance your pvp activities (gear and consumables)

    - being able to show you are doing well: rank/ranking list/distinctive skins/whatever.


    We had (at least some of) these back in the times when the game was worth playing (up to 6.x patch I think).

    Now pvp is not giving any of those, and it seems it stays the same in future patches.


    That renders gearing up pretty pointless, meaning logging into the game pointless.


    Edit: forgot the suggestions about what could make it better:)

    - completely rework the arena system, dredgions and other pvp arenas so that winning give most of the rewards (but participation should also be rewarded)

    - implement a meaningful group matching/ranking system for all pvp instances: arenas/dredgions/etc


    Of course, I don't believe any company would spend the resources required for such changes.

    Edited once, last by valde ().

  • ^

    This


    To be honest 5.8 meta, pvp instances and arenas were quite good, if they would just remove godstones, elemental transformations and tone down the p2w a bit that would've been excellent, we had a lot of competitive formats back then.

    Owpvp was kinda dead but that was still more enjoyable than what we have now.

    I hate stupid people.

  • I want to remind you that this discussion here serves one purpose. To get suggestions that are realistic for the Gameforge team to eventually implement and adjust. Don't ask for old content or modes or maps or skills and mechanics.

    Please try to think of our current 7.2 and the future of 7.5 and beyond and make suggestions that could increase the quality of life of players that play actively with rewards and so on.


    I've refrained from giving my criticism and opinion here because I didn't want anyone to think that I'm above them. Everyone is free to voice their opinions of course. Some have disrespected the request to keep it objective and not sarcastic, these suggestions I've totally ignored. If you treat it with disrespect you don't have to expect getting respected.


    Anyway, I'll give this topic until Friday to get more suggestions going in. Then I'll pick with the help of a few other veteran players - what's good in this topic to include into the Document as not everything can make it in there. Only reasonable and realistic ones that have been elaborated on.

    If you've suggested something without any explanation and elaboration on why it's good.. then you should do it before friday.

    Of course the topic will remain open and we can keep adding ideas into the document. I just didn't want to edit it every hour with new ideas... rather do it in one go.

    Also I added my discord server to the document because I was banned on the EU Community Discord. They don't like sponsored or supported Gameforge content and started to bully me there^^ so I told em my opinion and got banned after I left.

    Anyway, if you want you can discuss it here. The LIVE DISCUSSION option is there and I had no other choice but to add my own discord instead of the EU Community one.

    Thanks for all the feedback so far! Many interesting ideas in here but please don't derail from the main topic here and that is the westernization of AION 7.2 and 7.5 and not the bringing back of old and good mechanics and content of previous patches.


    Cheers:slove:

  • Well GF can't do much in this game

    Firstly im fine with paying for skins in shop, motion, exp scrolls, skill skins it's all fine and good. Ppl rly did like skins which is now pure death.

    But buying scrolls for that my char would look like how i want for next 9 min no thx

    Some players sure will buy others sipmly perefer stop play the game


    Second transformation system isn't fair, even close to fair old scrolls was simply good

    Old crafting was also good, you could go gather aether in chill then make scrolls


    Now to make money u have to make 10 alts make tons instances to buy 1 stone which gonna fail when others got cupons from altars

    There was so many option to play Aion, now u cant even farm mobs cuse it's pointless


    It's matter of time for next merge and i don't see any hope and Katalam won't change anything

  • 1. Removal of the cash shop

    2. Removal of any box/bag with RNG elements

    3. Removal of casino "promo events"

    4. Add a subscription and/or seasonpass model to make money.

    5. Only do events that stimulate/require players to grind content, make it rewarding.


    Bonus?

    Remove transformation mechanic, nobody wanted it, there's no need for it.

    Introduce way more skins and mounts (without stats!)

    Make a classic aion server


    Won't happen, no need to tell me.

  • One of the biggest nerfs of 7.2 is the new weekly restriction of enchant stone boxes.

    We are flooded with genesis crystals but they limited the main source of enchant stones so morphing ultimates is now severely restricted.

    If Gameforge insists this P2W nerfing is really necessary at least double the limit on obtaining enchant stone boxes.


    It feels like NCsoft/Gameforge are gradually squeezing the life blood out of Aion.

    ~ Say what you like to me but don't insult my Shugo ~

  • Also I added my discord server to the document because I was banned on the EU Community Discord. They don't like sponsored or supported Gameforge content and started to bully me there^^ so I told em my opinion and got banned after I left.

    That's not actually true. Our bot is promoting Gameforges social media and events everyday. We reached out to GF many times but it's not really up to us who they wanna work with. They don't like when we promote wtfast but there's Gameforge partners promoting other VPNs but for some reason, it's a different case for them. We'd like to do more, but it has become very clear that it's not possible. We just accepted it and moved on. Discord server is still aimed for the community so events and all what is happening around Aion is part of it.

  • Since I find that number suspiciously low compared to what I did so far, I tried to do the math here.

    From 24/07 till today, you have 19 weeks of garrisons. Each quest is 51 crystals, so 918 every week, 17442 in total. But I'm an active players, I do the daily lugbug because it's necessary. Daily from lugbug is 50 (very easy quests) and 80 (some classes takes longer to solo but there are groups daily). Another 910 weekly, or over 17k crystals. So far dailies and weekly are easy to do by anyone. Then there are 4x2 weeklies (30 for one) in Lakrum and the reason I did them was for cube bags but others might skip it. Still easy to do. Then there are sieges boxes that give crystals but sieges is not for everyone, and daily lugbug bags with a chance of them. Then there is Red Katalam gear extraction, if you like that (I don't). I'm sorry but for one that is pretending to be active, you missed out on more than half fragments mentioned. By the way, the average from 5 to 8 fragments is not 6, it's a bit more. If you think crafting takes less time or that is cheap, go ahead and do all by crafting but these are there for anyone to take, even the poor starting players.


    The point was, you said 'What are you doing with your thousands of genesis crystal? nothing.'. Give them to me, I have some idea on what to do with them.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  • Well, I cant wait to see which of these sugesstions are "realistic" for gf to make :D

    There are quite a few realistic things GF can do, the fact that they quickly reversed the instance drop nerf shows they can do it.


    However the team at GF is more about cash shop or running events - to my knowledge non of them actually play the game so unless there is a big outcry like we got at the start of 7.2, reading a large community wish-list is unlikely to have any effects.

    We are only seen as ways to extract more money, Galeas can only forward our ideas to others who don't really want to give us anything.

    ~ Say what you like to me but don't insult my Shugo ~