Aion 7.5

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What do you expected from 8.0 ?

Under following conditions

-No classic server or any classic elements

-No PvE server or PvE focus patch

-No reserve damage that done by 6.0 patch

-No more skins add to shop because 6.0 says so

-Everything will remain untradable

-No housing suggest allow

Very welcome opinions

-More transforms add

-More enchanting,upgrading and more RNG

-More destroy maps

-Skill changes make some stupid useless and some OP after people +15 it

-More P2W items in shop

-Lower success rate of enchanting, upgrading

-Every buff become passive like cleric and can't toggle

Well now you can suggest under these conditions

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NCSoft is predictable at this point. The usual is copy pasting stuff from the other games already developed by them. Then destroying a few maps and restore one with each update. I said randomly a few months ago (rant) about continuously adding empyrean lords as ultimate transforms in the future. What did they do? Added more ultimate transforms. That was an easy prediction. I remember when minions were added, players asked jokingly when are the S rank coming. I think they left things unfinished like that on purpose, to be added later as new content. We have only yellow and purple daevanion skills, there is room for red ones. We have only white, green, blue and yellow stigmas, why not add red ones? New levels and new gear to be farmed, because why not, it's a big new patch and they tend to do that every other big patch. That on top of every system that is kept in the game and consume more and more time to complete it (daevanion skills, stigma skills, cubes, collections stats, transforms, s minions, enchanting your active skills and transforms with runes and odians and so on). Someone starting Aion new, in 2020, has no chance to play this game competitively.

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So dark you sure you're not from DC universe ?

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If they would bring a decent staff for clerics I would dust off mine (have like 3 of them) and play them again. Somehow a cleric with a staff felt more sorc-like than actual sorcs.

They can´t use Staff´s anymore (Thank God) Cleric´s already deal more than enough Dmg. (Talking only about pvp)

Ofc can they still use it. It doesn’t make any sense though.

Since there are no more magic Staffs, its the same as if they could'nt use them *shrug*

Huh? I can see a huge difference between there are no magic staffs and cleric can not use it.

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New levels and new gear to be farmed, because why not, it's a big new patch and they tend to do that every other big patch. That on top of every system that is kept in the game and consume more and more time to complete it (daevanion skills, stigma skills, cubes, collections stats, transforms, s minions, enchanting your active skills and transforms with runes and odians and so on). Someone starting Aion new, in 2020, has no chance to play this game competitively.

That's true. But you can't just blame this on the game. People, who spent a lot of time in theses systems demand it to be this way. Even at this point of the game they would consider giving Red Gear to Starters a big insult. (Although there are still tons of other systems that can make the difference).
Everything you gain in Aion remains nearly forever and every few months new systems are added to keep the very active player base busy. Many people in our community love that.

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New levels and new gear to be farmed, because why not, it's a big new patch and they tend to do that every other big patch. That on top of every system that is kept in the game and consume more and more time to complete it (daevanion skills, stigma skills, cubes, collections stats, transforms, s minions, enchanting your active skills and transforms with runes and odians and so on). Someone starting Aion new, in 2020, has no chance to play this game competitively.

That's true. But you can't just blame this on the game. People, who spent a lot of time in theses systems demand it to be this way. Even at this point of the game they would consider giving Red Gear to Starters a big insult. (Although there are still tons of other systems that can make the difference).
Everything you gain in Aion remains nearly forever and every few months new systems are added to keep the very active player base busy. Many people in our community love that.

Numbers says otherwise. The game was immensely more popular when we didnt have all that stack of p2w systems piled up on our characters.

Even ultra whales start to leave the game because the consequence of those systems is that the servers are empty.

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Everything you gain in Aion remains nearly forever and every few months new systems are added to keep the very active player base busy. Many people in our community love that.

Yes, many people.

Many people which finished their Tier 2 PvP Gear last autumn (I had mine finished in begin-november) are loving to play the game with literally no progress/content to be done beside spamming makarna on 150 alts each week to, perhaps, finish at some point their +15 Daevanion Skills.

Heads down to those farming for a 2. Tier 2 PvP Gear/2. Kata PvP Gear to go and PvP again and again and again against the same people in all dreds.

Such fun, much wow, so "busy active playerbase".

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That's true. But you can't just blame this on the game. People, who spent a lot of time in theses systems demand it to be this way. Even at this point of the game they would consider giving Red Gear to Starters a big insult. (Although there are still tons of other systems that can make the difference). Everything you gain in Aion remains nearly forever and every few months new systems are added to keep the very active player base busy. Many people in our community love that.

Yes, many people.

Many people which finished their Tier 2 PvP Gear last autumn (I had mine finished in begin-november) are loving to play the game with literally no progress/content to be done beside spamming makarna on 150 alts each week to, perhaps, finish at some point their +15 Daevanion Skills.

Heads down to those farming for a 2. Tier 2 PvP Gear/2. Kata PvP Gear to go and PvP again and again and again against the same people in all dreds.

Such fun, much wow, so "busy active playerbase".

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Give the second best gear out for free like Kata gear f.e. While tier 2 pvp is still the best, they would only troll the active PvP players (which are left, KAPPA) if the next event would actually give out this specific gear.

Of course there is no one left to PvP against like this. But that's exactly what you want...

- Unlimited progress (At the end you will be slowed down to have some sort of competition left, but if the progress was faster like in other games you would have been finished since November. This would really mean "No progress/content to be done" Probably a nightmare for you.)

- No chance to catch up (That's what my post was about in the first place)

So whats your point?

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That's true. But you can't just blame this on the game. People, who spent a lot of time in theses systems demand it to be this way. Even at this point of the game they would consider giving Red Gear to Starters a big insult. (Although there are still tons of other systems that can make the difference). Everything you gain in Aion remains nearly forever and every few months new systems are added to keep the very active player base busy. Many people in our community love that.

Yes, many people.

Many people which finished their Tier 2 PvP Gear last autumn (I had mine finished in begin-november) are loving to play the game with literally no progress/content to be done beside spamming makarna on 150 alts each week to, perhaps, finish at some point their +15 Daevanion Skills.

Heads down to those farming for a 2. Tier 2 PvP Gear/2. Kata PvP Gear to go and PvP again and again and again against the same people in all dreds.

Such fun, much wow, so "busy active playerbase".

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Give the second best gear out for free like Kata gear f.e. While tier 2 pvp is still the best, they would only troll the active PvP players (which are left, KAPPA) if the next event would actually give out this specific gear.

Of course there is no one left to PvP against like this. But that's exactly what you want...

- Unlimited progress (At the end you will be slowed down to have some sort of competition left, but if the progress was faster like in other games you would have been finished since November. This would really mean "No progress/content to be done" Probably a nightmare for you.)

- No chance to catch up (That's what my post was about in the first place)

So whats your point?

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That there's nothing to do.

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So whats your point?

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That there's nothing to do.

Ty Para.

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They limited the enchantment to +15 now. Some of the players already have +10 and the stats difference is huge.

Did they? I was just on the knowledge point that you can enchant to unlimited but everything above +15 has a abnormal low ratio of success

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They limited the enchantment to +15 now. Some of the players already have +10 and the stats difference is huge.

Did they? I was just on the knowledge point that you can enchant to unlimited but everything above +15 has a abnormal low ratio of success

Actually everything past 10 has abnormally low ratio of succeed... and even +9 is P2W ONLY territory

This is capped to +15 and the rates are extremely bad, you need it full +8 at the very least to be slightly better than blackfeather +15 because it has worse base stat and no pvp/pve stats, and even then you might miss some important stats that you can't roll on the extreme set like acc/macc/hb/mr/eva.

In white is the success rate, in red is the destruction rate on fail.

This will be like peitan in 4.9, on paper it's the best gear in the game, in reality no one will have it enchanted high enough to be relevant.

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This is capped to +15 and the rates are extremely bad, you need it full +8 at the very least to be slightly better than blackfeather +15 because it has worse base stat and no pvp/pve stats, and even then you might miss some important stats that you can't roll on infinite.

In white is the success rate, in red is the destruction rate on fail.

This will be like peitan in 4.9, on paper it's the best gear in the game, in reality no one will have it enchanted high enough to be relevant.

I hope it stays exactly like that. Then our Silent black and merciless is still the best... And you get some idiots spending multiple thousands of €uros just to fail on that set. Nice income for gameforge, and nice for the rest of us since only under 1% of whales would get that set high enough to have huge benefit over current endgame.

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On paper it's the best gear in the game, in reality no one will have it enchanted high enough to be relevant.

Finally someone with a brain is talking, tyvm

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you need it full +8 at the very least to be slightly better than blackfeather +15

It's a bit more than slightly imo. This guy has a full +8, one part +7, and look at the offensive stats and the defensive stats. Our gear with pvp attack combined is worse, but it's unfair to compare with that guy with additional stats. On the other hand, that guy has a full +15 old set as well and it was more than 2k of attack combined when he switched.

edit: I forgot to mention the huge HP buff.

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you need it full +8 at the very least to be slightly better than blackfeather +15

It's a bit more than slightly imo. This guy has a full +8, one part +7, and look at the offensive stats and the defensive stats. Our gear with pvp attack combined is worse, but it's unfair to compare with that guy with additional stats. On the other hand, that guy has a full +15 old set as well and it was more than 2k of attack combined when he switched.

Step 1 : Laugh at his €€ spent on this set

Step 2 : Switch on MR

Step 3 : Watch as he is forced to switch back to blackfeather because he can't roll macc on extreme set

Step 4 : Clap him.

So much for the max 3 whales that will have it on EU.

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Step 1 : Laugh at his €€ spent on this set

Step 2 : Switch on MR

Step 3 : Watch as he is forced to switch back to blackfeather because he can't roll macc on extreme set

Step 4 : Clap him.

So much for the max 3 whales that will have it on EU.

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You can see his magic accuracy is very high, without his buff, so I don't know if MR works.

I sure do know that I wouldn't go near it if it has DP and other buffs on (against geared player).

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you need it full +8 at the very least to be slightly better than blackfeather +15

It's a bit more than slightly imo. This guy has a full +8, one part +7, and look at the offensive stats and the defensive stats. Our gear with pvp attack combined is worse, but it's unfair to compare with that guy with additional stats. On the other hand, that guy has a full +15 old set as well and it was more than 2k of attack combined when he switched.

edit: I forgot to mention the huge HP buff.

still nobody gonna have that gear, that guy bought rng boxes from a promotion event, where you could get +1-8 gear

Those dmg, thats just the improved daevanion dp + improved stigmas combo, sadly a lot of classes do beyond stupid dmg with those.

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What do you expected from 8.0 ?

Under following conditions

-No classic server or any classic elements

-No PvE server or PvE focus patch

-No reserve damage that done by 6.0 patch

-No more skins add to shop because 6.0 says so

-Everything will remain untradable

-No housing suggest allow

Very welcome opinions

-More transforms add

-More enchanting,upgrading and more RNG

-More destroy maps

-Skill changes make some stupid useless and some OP after people +15 it

-More P2W items in shop

-Lower success rate of enchanting, upgrading

-Every buff become passive like cleric and can't toggle

Well now you can suggest under these conditions

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NCSoft is predictable at this point. The usual is copy pasting stuff from the other games already developed by them. Then destroying a few maps and restore one with each update. I said randomly a few months ago (rant) about continuously adding empyrean lords as ultimate transforms in the future. What did they do? Added more ultimate transforms. That was an easy prediction. I remember when minions were added, players asked jokingly when are the S rank coming. I think they left things unfinished like that on purpose, to be added later as new content. We have only yellow and purple daevanion skills, there is room for red ones. We have only white, green, blue and yellow stigmas, why not add red ones? New levels and new gear to be farmed, because why not, it's a big new patch and they tend to do that every other big patch. That on top of every system that is kept in the game and consume more and more time to complete it (daevanion skills, stigma skills, cubes, collections stats, transforms, s minions, enchanting your active skills and transforms with runes and odians and so on). Someone starting Aion new, in 2020, has no chance to play this game competitively.

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Yesterday I dream something about Aion,it's about next week update,I dream that they added S-Rank gears make all older items obsoleted.At this point I say every dream I had destroyed Aion is finished.

This is infinity war ending without endgame part.

I had enough. If you want to discuss what you think are the responsibilities of publishers and developers and who is making/losing money, do it in the offtopic section.

This whole conversation you had going on since yesterday had nothing to do with 7.5.