Aion 7.5

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    Quote from acleric

    Oof. Guess I won't be a cleric in the future anymore. Why the f do they always have to touch the cleric. Chanter with perma protection spell is now able to heal grps better than cleric and has - in addition - shields and buffs to protect the grp. Meanwhile all I can do as cler is healing light, because the rest of the skills got cd. :loveheart:grrrrrreat

    omygod why my skills have a cooldown? :((((( so unfair, flash heal should be 0s cd so i can play the game with my toes while i do my makeup tuto that i'm gonna post on youtube soon dont forget to subscribe btw.


    Protection spell was op in 6.0, now it's dogsh*t, 4k hp every 2s aint gonna save anyone.

    Guess you never played a support class.

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    Quote from acleric

    Oof. Guess I won't be a cleric in the future anymore. Why the f do they always have to touch the cleric. Chanter with perma protection spell is now able to heal grps better than cleric and has - in addition - shields and buffs to protect the grp. Meanwhile all I can do as cler is healing light, because the rest of the skills got cd. :loveheart:grrrrrreat

    omygod why my skills have a cooldown? :((((( so unfair, flash heal should be 0s cd so i can play the game with my toes while i do my makeup tuto that i'm gonna post on youtube soon dont forget to subscribe btw.


    Protection spell was op in 6.0, now it's dogsh*t, 4k hp every 2s aint gonna save anyone.

    Guess you never played a support class.

    I actually main a support class.

    The only people complaining about this nerf are the clerics who spammed the charging aoe heal out of laziness. Time for those to go back to a normal gameplay.


    I wish we could go back to pre 4.8 meta where clerics had almost no aoe heals and aoe damage was actually a great punish to groups that had bad positioning.

    I hate stupid people.

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    That's the reason why I left my cleric, in pve there's only 1 heal u have to press, and maybe sometimes a dispel or shield,

    Pvp wise I never did cleric because didn't had the time to get diferrent gears and stuff so ur not constantly in cc or dead within 1 sec since everyone focuses you

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    Quote from Xxtomix4

    its not a nerf, they made our strongest dps skill from dots every 4 seconds to every 2 seconds, thats is pretty op

    maybe read it again. each 2 second for 30 seconds lesser damage (~-200) than before, how is this not a nerf?

    Quote from Xxtomix4

    new cd for healing wave (from 3 sc to 12 sc) it only affects in general, heals in groups for pve and pvp( support clerics) , a dps cleric never cast that skill, not worth it.

    yea give it 4-times more cooldown why not, right? 2-times cooldown would be enough, 4-times is way too much compared to chanter heals. and why the hell dps cleric would never cast that skill? even on dps you can have +heal boost?

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    also they took the initial heals from some skills and buffed heal dots, pretty OP.

    heal dots? you mean hot (heal over time) and not damage over time. and no its not even a reason to call them "OP" since usually you need inital heal to survive burst from classes like painter or bosses ;) hot's wont even save you.


    and last but not least this patch is kinda forcing cleric to play like a stone, well there are enough clerics that play like that. hopefully ncsoft revert or think about it again. even korea player laughed at thoses changes to cleric - mostly of them didnt upvote thoses changes - understandable.

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    I can see the point NC is trying to make. I think they want to move away from having one healer class in the game that does everything, because it would make other classes obsolete. For too many years players in Aion went 5 dps and one healer (cleric) in regular instance, and a class like chanter was ignored. Then for a short time chanter's heal was op and nobody needed a cleric. I think this way they want to separate the roles, having chanter for aoe heals in between attacks and cleric for emergencies and dispels in between attacks. Bard can also support the group. In KR you see most pvp and pve groups having both cleric and chanter and the cleric is never just a healing bot, they attack like everyone else and use emergency skills when needed. It sucks for those that chose cleric as a do it all support class and wanted to have every single kit that a healer has in other games, where there is a only a main healer.


    On the other hand this balance is done based on KR gameplay, where a lot of them reached endgame in terms of achievements. You see clerics outlasting every class if you give them the time, and doing an insane amount of damage in pvp. But this is rarely the case here in EU where most players never completed one pvp set, and talking about second or third pvp set is out of the question. You don't see many clerics here running around with +15 stigmas and an ultimate transform (huge boost). While our concerns might be legitimate, there is nothing we can do. The game was meant to be played like it is in KR, not like here where your goal is to farm years for a full pvp set and don't enjoy much of the pvp until then because of the imbalance.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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    yea give it 4-times more cooldown why not, right? 2-times cooldown would be enough, 4-times is way too much compared to chanter heals. and why the hell dps cleric would never cast that skill? even on dps you can have +heal boost?

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    Chanter's protection spell cd is exactly 12 seconds... just as much as healing wave post nerf 8|

    Chanter's only other options to heal are word of life (hot aswell, 1mn cd), healing burst (single target big heal, 10s cd) and... healing light.

    Meanwhile clerics have much more base healing boost than chanters due to their passive (without even counting benevolence) and they have ripple, radiant cure, flash heal, hand of healing, splendour of rebirth, life saving splendour, splendour of recovery and so on... all of those options that are wayyy better than healing light, and they can even increase their healing boost even more by using benevolence, blessed shield and/or amplification.


    The patch just got released in korea, i'd say you still have around 9/10 month to train how to heal properly without spamming heal wave.

    I hate stupid people.

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    I can see the point NC is trying to make. I think they want to move away from having one healer class in the game that does everything, because it would make other classes obsolete. For too many years players in Aion went 5 dps and one healer (cleric) in regular instance, and a class like chanter was ignored. Then for a short time chanter's heal was op and nobody needed a cleric. I think this way they want to separate the roles, having chanter for aoe heals in between attacks and cleric for emergencies and dispels in between attacks. Bard can also support the group. In KR you see most pvp and pve groups having both cleric and chanter and the cleric is never just a healing bot, they attack like everyone else and use emergency skills when needed. It sucks for those that chose cleric as a do it all support class and wanted to have every single kit that a healer has in other games, where there is a only a main healer.


    On the other hand this balance is done based on KR gameplay, where a lot of them reached endgame in terms of achievements. You see clerics outlasting every class if you give them the time, and doing an insane amount of damage in pvp. But this is rarely the case here in EU where most players never completed one pvp set, and talking about second or third pvp set is out of the question. You don't see many clerics here running around with +15 stigmas and an ultimate transform (huge boost). While our concerns might be legitimate, there is nothing we can do. The game was meant to be played like it is in KR, not like here where your goal is to farm years for a full pvp set and don't enjoy much of the pvp until then because of the imbalance.

    Translating as there will be less Bene clerics and more DPS clerics ? :D

    Clerics don't share loot with chanters anymore. So that problem gone.

    About dispels and emergencies I think bard can do that too while still managing dps/healing mode, to be honest I'm all for dps clerics their dps vision stigma is great.

    There's no more needed of full support stigma in PvE ?


    I like how the game dividing support jobs to other classes this is a great change for me. But it will take a while for people to accept clerics are no longer main healing class :o

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    There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

    LOL removed knockback on that gunners skill xD

    I mean sure, just use the other one but making skills absolutely useless after ppl spent ton of money making them +15 is just ;__;

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    Well its only logical the class had to be nerfed, what did you expect, they wouldnt let gunners do 60k dmg on paralyze forever

    I hate stupid people.

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    LOL removed knockback on that gunners skill xD

    I mean sure, just use the other one but making skills absolutely useless after ppl spent ton of money making them +15 is just ;__;

    Maybe they should of not spent ton of money on virtual content that is ever changing in nature and which you dont ''own'' in anyway even after the money... :/

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    LOL removed knockback on that gunners skill xD

    I mean sure, just use the other one but making skills absolutely useless after ppl spent ton of money making them +15 is just ;__;

    Maybe they should of not spent ton of money on virtual content that is ever changing in nature and which you dont ''own'' in anyway even after the money... :/

    Yes, why spend money at all, let´s just keep it and don´t ever do stuff with it.


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    What do you expected from 8.0 ?


    Under following conditions

    -No classic server or any classic elements

    -No PvE server or PvE focus patch

    -No reserve damage that done by 6.0 patch

    -No more skins add to shop because 6.0 says so

    -Everything will remain untradable

    -No housing suggest allow


    Very welcome opinions

    -More transforms add

    -More enchanting,upgrading and more RNG

    -More destroy maps

    -Skill changes make some stupid useless and some OP after people +15 it

    -More P2W items in shop

    -Lower success rate of enchanting, upgrading

    -Every buff become passive like cleric and can't toggle


    Well now you can suggest under these conditions 8o^^


    I would love that changes

    If they would bring a decent staff for clerics I would dust off mine (have like 3 of them) and play them again. Somehow a cleric with a staff felt more sorc-like than actual sorcs.

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    If they would bring a decent staff for clerics I would dust off mine (have like 3 of them) and play them again. Somehow a cleric with a staff felt more sorc-like than actual sorcs.

    They can´t use Staff´s anymore (Thank God) Cleric´s already deal more than enough Dmg. (Talking only about pvp)

    NCSoft is predictable at this point. The usual is copy pasting stuff from the other games already developed by them. Then destroying a few maps and restore one with each update. I said randomly a few months ago (rant) about continuously adding empyrean lords as ultimate transforms in the future. What did they do? Added more ultimate transforms. That was an easy prediction. I remember when minions were added, players asked jokingly when are the S rank coming. I think they left things unfinished like that on purpose, to be added later as new content. We have only yellow and purple daevanion skills, there is room for red ones. We have only white, green, blue and yellow stigmas, why not add red ones? New levels and new gear to be farmed, because why not, it's a big new patch and they tend to do that every other big patch. That on top of every system that is kept in the game and consume more and more time to complete it (daevanion skills, stigma skills, cubes, collections stats, transforms, s minions, enchanting your active skills and transforms with runes and odians and so on). Someone starting Aion new, in 2020, has no chance to play this game competitively.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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    If they would bring a decent staff for clerics I would dust off mine (have like 3 of them) and play them again. Somehow a cleric with a staff felt more sorc-like than actual sorcs.

    They can´t use Staff´s anymore (Thank God) Cleric´s already deal more than enough Dmg. (Talking only about pvp)

    Ofc can they still use it. It doesn’t make any sense though.

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    Quote from Gzus

    If they would bring a decent staff for clerics I would dust off mine (have like 3 of them) and play them again. Somehow a cleric with a staff felt more sorc-like than actual sorcs.

    They can´t use Staff´s anymore (Thank God) Cleric´s already deal more than enough Dmg. (Talking only about pvp)

    Ofc can they still use it. It doesn’t make any sense though.

    Since there are no more magic Staffs, its the same as if they could'nt use them *shrug*