MyAion DPS meter

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then those people should not be playing a game where such info is being sent out to everyone around.

Then a game account is player's private account, belonging to Gameforge. There is a time, U all have to understand, that can be someone who doestnt agree with publishing his account to Ur knowledge. More, someone's point to call about "dont play ..." - man ..

U guys cant require from someone, that someone HAVE TO agree with global state, if personally doesnt agree.

I am fixing post, to delete any potential attack to any person - simply not that point, so i have to quote with a different way.

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In my experience, I'm getting discriminated much less since myaion.

Being asked to link gear, this was really awful - Solved

Being included in the group and then excluded - Solved

It was unfair not being able to check the other - Solved

Now you don't get discriminated directly, but indirectly. If you get accepted in groups, it's safe to say that you were checked before, that you also checked the group holder and that means higher probability of success.

Now, if we add the possibility of learning from others, check how your DPS is progressing and have a good looking profile of your character, we have a nice tool overall. It's absurd to complain about info of a game that:

1- It's public data.

2- It's not personal info.

3- It doesn't belong to you.

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but except one player around here you and others that keep posting something like this are in general ppl that haven't gone past dragons. ppl discriminating on dragons or lower content are ppl that form group to get carried because they just created chars and have about 50-60k hp with ancient gear. with npc ulti gear you can kill the bosses in 6 ppl. the game barely starts there.

idk why ppl only reply to me... like i'm against. i said i use dps meter... i share by profile... but things are not as easy as ppl say and arguments can be made on both sides.

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1-Its public? not at all, its private. Maybe you dont have the rights, but thats doesnt make it public.

It is. It's as if I were to stand in the middle of the road and track what people passing me are wearing and posting my findings on some website. I'm not going to anyone's home, I'm in a public space.

probably not a great example. traffic in aion is first of all encrypted... and second... it's private. private to gf network and servers and private to instances. from the first one you got agreement or tolerance from gf to use it. data from instances is not shared with the whole server... only with the groups attending. some ppl here are saying that they don't wish their data collected by group members attending the same instance. how do we solve this? it's not their data to begin with like i explained before but this could be more of a moral argument or a decisive argument if more ppl go to gf with this... problem. we had features in the past... now hidden... because ppl used to dodge pvp or something.

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but except one player around here you and others that keep posting something like this are in general ppl that haven't gone past dragons.

What's the alternative? If you have no way to objectively judge someone you'd assume according to your posts that they will just try it with you or judge you based on the gear you post. That's not necessarily the case. It may as well happen that you start to focus more on your own server because you think that you know those players better than e.g. that guy from Ragnarock that claims to know the instance.

Furthermore I think that you underestimate another matter: Even if you didn't do an instance yet with MyAion you can determine a) whether the DPS is alright b) whether they managed to clear similar instances (e.g. it's not that far from Ara Infernalia EM to NM).

When my groups took other people it was mainly based on connections (knowing each other, sharing the legion, whatever) or "well, they at least join our TS and we don't have to use our awkward English to communicate".

This thread is a lot about discrimination. When you look for a job and are rejected due to your lack of qualifications you wouldn't define it as discrimination either. Lots of the applicants don't meet the requirements in regard of gear or allover DPS. It's not necessarily about the experience in a certain instance. In addition, I can claim that not everybody cares as much, otherwise I wouldn't find these 3-hours-of-Ara-with-an-inexperienced-templar-groups in the first place.

I once met someone asking me whether I can do Beninerk NM with no cubes (happened just after cubes were added to MyAion), but they took me anyway. Weirdos can and will be found anywhere - I could talk endlessly about "what gear do you have?" stories from the past. They are worse, believe me.

Anyone can make their way with or without this website and DPSmeter - or they're simply not cut for it. Anyway, I find it helpful to compare and become better yourself. If someone doesn't want to improve that's completely fine. It's not like you have to do Stormwing or Raging Prigga to gear up decently.

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probably not a great example. traffic in aion is first of all encrypted... and second... it's private.

PAckets being encrypted means nothing. If I were to obscure a message and post it on the street, would that make my note private?

Again, If I were to do the same but on private neighbor grounds, limiting my scope, it would still be publicly available information.
Packets that are sent by GF's server belong to the receiver once they hit their PC. What they do with said packets, is for them to decide.

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but except one player around here you and others that keep posting something like this are in general ppl that haven't gone past dragons.

What's the alternative? If you have no way to objectively judge someone you'd assume according to your posts that they will just try it with you or judge you based on the gear you post. That's not necessarily the case. It may as well happen that you start to focus more on your own server because you think that you know those players better than e.g. that guy from Ragnarock that claims to know the instance.

Furthermore I think that you underestimate another matter: Even if you didn't do an instance yet with MyAion you can determine a) whether the DPS is alright b) whether they managed to clear similar instances (e.g. it's not that far from Ara Infernalia EM to NM).

When my groups took other people it was mainly based on connections (knowing each other, sharing the legion, whatever) or "well, they at least join our TS and we don't have to use our awkward English to communicate".

This thread is a lot about discrimination. When you look for a job and are rejected due to your lack of qualifications you wouldn't define it as discrimination either. Lots of the applicants don't meet the requirements in regard of gear or allover DPS. It's not necessarily about the experience in a certain instance. In addition, I can claim that not everybody cares as much, otherwise I wouldn't find these 3-hours-of-Ara-with-an-inexperienced-templar-groups in the first place.

I once met someone asking me whether I can do Beninerk NM with no cubes (happened just after cubes were added to MyAion), but they took me anyway. Weirdos can and will be found anywhere - I could talk endlessly about "what gear do you have?" stories from the past. They are worse, believe me.

Anyone can make their way with or without this website and DPSmeter - or they're simply not cut for it. Anyway, I find it helpful to compare and become better yourself. If someone doesn't want to improve that's completely fine. It's not like you have to do Stormwing or Raging Prigga to gear up decently.

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as a player there is still no way to objectively judge someone capabilities if they have no experience in whatever instance. someone can jump on an alt with their stigmas and share the same cubes and ulti and has the knowledge of the instance or others have runs and a bit over the required dps for that instance and still die by not avoiding the aoe or bringing poison to the first boss (dragons example). i had all kinds of experiences because i accept anyone. they are equally capable of doing it but ppl will mostly look for the second player. it's nice that dps meters show gear if you want it shared or something more but you can have gear stigmas transform and no runs and most ppl look at runs in respective instance or dps there and judge. most discrimination is no runs then not accepted. for those concerned about dps alone and not mechanics or capabilities... dps meters could show a message... dps ready. why not exactly when people apply? these software are capable or intercepting anything that comes. when ppl apply and you inv them in the respective instance group a dps meter can say dps ready... based on multiple estimations... so ppl don't have to search a player in the database and furthermore... discriminate as much. i gave the example of dragons because there i need one other player like me and the rest can be paper filling the groups... so i don't get why it matters. this could be a feature of the dps meter perhaps?

this is different than finding a job. a job description and requirement can be lengthy and precisely specified and can give you much time... unlike a recruitment post in server wide window that is short and not for long. most of them that don't specify respective experience as a requirement still accept ppl based on previous experience. and they look for all their previous experience... they don't glance over some number and say it's ready or not. nobody is born ready for a job... all started somewhere small. in aion is kind of the opposite because of many bad things happening besides the ppl... and they glance over a number and previous dps there and judge. what if it has no runs or runs from a year ago are bad dps numbers when the respective player had bad gear and bad cubes stigmas transf?

beni nm is another example of easy instance that where ppl can be carried by a few. nice ppl can accept you based on the other things and not just one thing. discriminating there seems pointless as well. nice ppl can be found less and less... most quitting the game.

as i said before. i'm not disputing the benefits of a dps meter. for some it's just an orientation tool... for others it's a decisive factor. a comparison would be a knife. some use it to slice bread... others for terrible things... it's not the fault of the knife. but dps meter can help here by not giving these ppl such opportunities... or reduce them if possible.

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probably not a great example. traffic in aion is first of all encrypted... and second... it's private.

PAckets being encrypted means nothing. If I were to obscure a message and post it on the street, would that make my note private?

Again, If I were to do the same but on private neighbor grounds, limiting my scope, it would still be publicly available information.
Packets that are sent by GF's server belong to the receiver once they hit their PC. What they do with said packets, is for them to decide.

except if we want to be more technical... it's double encrypted in aion.

take an easier example since you run one aion help websites. most websites use ssl encryption. the only way to hack this connection from end to end is to install a root cert on someone's comp using the respective connection (and do some more...). the alternative... a very long time.

so it's not a public message for you to find on the street that can solve a puzzle. the same thing is happening in aion.

if gf knew how this works... or if someone would have used for other things than fair pve statistics... gf wouldn't allow it. this is capable of much more but the creators limited those capabilities. ppl created this before getting permission and there was no way to get their permission in advance based on their tos. so publishers were already put into difficulty of choice when many already used a dps meter. they got their hands forced but they can't do anything about it... they have no way to detect dps meters or hacks in this game... and ppl would have used privately anyway .

Hi Livo, if got a small problem with my aion. When im on wifi it does not count the dmg. When im on wire everything is working fine. Can you help me please ?

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Hi Livo, if got a small problem with my aion. When im on wifi it does not count the dmg. When im on wire everything is working fine. Can you help me please ?

Change the network adapter lol

The program dont see my adapter (i have a blank list)

is it me or collections are not getting updated anymore?

Thanks ! I had the same problem, I downloaded the update and It's working

Livo

Hi,

Mind to add a dark theme on the website? with an option stored as cookie?

https://darkreader.org/ works fine.

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https://darkreader.org/ works fine.

nearly there

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