Rising P2W items in the shop

    Hey Devas and Dear GameForge Team,


    I strongly, but respectfully, disagree with the new shop items and the direction it takes the game.


    I consider myself a tryhard player. I have a decent job and can afford to pay some money for my hobby (Aion). But this is getting out of Hand.

    Unlimited purchase of manastones is in my opinion a mistake. It may help with the manastone prices, but it will lead to a situation where whales buy so much of them, that it will affect the prices for things like enchantment stones and crafting materials (which are expensive anyways).

    Until now I was able to catch up, maybe more like staying relevant, with gear without going over 50€/month by min/maxing and clever (at least I think I am xD) decision-making.

    The reset scrolls are p2w also but at least caped in purchases.


    It is not about that I can't get my manastones, or enchantment stones for me, it is about the time I need to get them. Ppl now are able to buy their stuff even more and faster (legally) and out gear me. The amount of platin medals you can get through ESO reset scrolls + beeping able to 6-slot them + enchant them is advancing the game speed (gearing) rapidly.


    More and better gear has multiple amplification.

    More offensive gear means more DMG, which leads to more siege rewards. More defensive gear helps greatly in PvP which means more AP income.

    I will lose more fights because I can't afford multiple gear sets, AP wise, Medal wise and kinah wise.


    I love this game, but I can't afford to pay more for it. I feel pressured to buy the manastones to stay relevant, I already felt pressured to get the current event pass (crowns and reset scrolls for eso) and I also feel pressured to buy the 5 reset scrolls and every time they are in the shop (2nd time we got offer 5 + the 90day siels+1 scroll thingie). A point is reached where I am thinking about quitting because the game pressures me to buy things to have fun, which for me means I feel like I can stay competitive. Which I can't.


    The limited stuff already did hurt but at least it was limited. The unlimited stuff is way to much.


    I am aware that this post alone won't change anything. I hope you guys feel the same and maybe we can raise a loud enough voice to stop/change this.


    @Game Forge: I think you missed a lot of potentially revenue with cosmetic and quality of live items (like cube expansion) and you are pushing towards p2w items way to hard. I would love to get the reasoning behind that decisions. Also I do not presume that I know better than you guys, I just care to much for the game to at least try to change things I think are going wrong, before I decide to leav the game.


    Greetings

    Divinas

    The -random- element of the stones you are -buying- is even more insulting, like you go to a shop, pay $10 and get maybe food or a piece of cardboard in return.

    It's just depressing that they chose the p2w route instead of p2skin route which was so easily available (look at any other region). There's a whole section in discord with people begging for skins but for some reason we just don't get them.

    Manastone issues could easily have been solved by adding manastone drops to end bosses or some sort of daily/weekly objective similar to the hero quests back on retail which would also incentivise people to actually play the game instead of just swiping.


    As someone else said, the playerbase is older and better off than 10 years ago (more willing to spend and less willing to grind), but it is not smart going so hard for the p2w route if you want longevity for classic.

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    As someone else said, the playerbase is older and better off than 10 years ago (more willing to spend and less willing to grind), but it is not smart going so hard for the p2w route if you want longevity for classic.

    True but you spend where it makes sense and there's value; when you are being asked to pay $300 for a pizza, you end up just not buying anything, even if you are rich.

    It just means we'll approach the same end as retail more quickly, dead except for the few whales who have invested too much to quit.

    I am also willing to spend quite a bit on my hobbies, but not when I feel like I'm killing the game by spending.

    Full 40e set in premium pass, now reset scrolls, enchant scrolls, manastones in cash shop?!


    Are they trying to milk population before TnL arrives??


    Abg weaps soon in cash shop too?

    I agree with all of that. It's getting pay to win more and more. FULL 40e + 3 40 accessoiries, even full udas gear on the other pass. The cube expansion in the event pass - people would even buy it in shop (might be more people too).

    Also there is or was an item in shop where you can get daily also AP (it's rng, but atleast every 5 day you will get AP), and also the AP coming into the passes, and not just one. It's ridiculous.

    Who would have thought that classic will go even more p2w and first few months are just to bait in.
    Glad i've seen this topic right before i decided to return to the game lol.
    Would have been easy to fix some of the issues using surveys, like lack of manastones etc.
    But ofc selling in shop is a "solution" too , while whales can just keep buying kinah and keep manastone etc prices inflated in broker too.