Why is EU classic so nerfed compared to NA?

    Well, I do not comprehend why one would take current NA as a good reference. I stopped playing on NA when EU hit first day , ranked above thirty. When I logged in yesterday my character was still ranked above eighty. Tells me enough about how active/competitive NA is and that it is not a desirable outcome for EU.


    Open world and sieges still were the core mechanics for me on retail. The game is dull if one has to hide in dungeons all day long for a white drop or a firm balic material once a month. Whereas I used to farm in Memphis Farm or Undirborg area, including random PvP encounters, waiting for dredgion entry, now I just idle in Inggison being bored. Sadly one could as well just reduce all the maps into a small area offering four daily medal quests where players can gank each other non stop while trying to finish quests. That is pretty much all there is left of end game open world.

    Quote from Philine

    has there ever been an official statement that the low drop rate is supposed to fight bots?

    Nope but they didnt make any statement about drops, but drops from elite mobs are terrible. Zerooooo!

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    Quote from Philine

    has there ever been an official statement that the low drop rate is supposed to fight bots?

    never, that's just people's assumptions

    Maybe they never said it here, but they said it in KR.
    And it WAS changed: just read here
    Aion | Aion Classic Producer's Letter (aiononline.com)

    And just look at their events in NA and compare it to our lousy events in EU

    But maybe now they want to sell stuff like this: Aion | Manastone Pass (aiononline.com)

    Thats why the drops are nerfed - to sell more stuff!

    NA are very generous with events tbh compared to EU, we often get a lot of crowns, free siel, free storage pet (permanent) pet, even a couple times 50 abyss weapon.

    EU drop rates are the exact same KR and NA had when they were on the same version. As for events, most events other regions are running right now don't exist for our version, just as they didn't have them back then :)


    We know the drop situation is very tricky though and we're doing best to try and guarantee a more enjoyable experience for you

    So what is planned on your side about this? thats what we are eager to hear.

    Changing the loot and putting something close to what we had 10+ years ago under NCsoft and then you would be great.

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    EU drop rates are the exact same KR and NA had when they were on the same version. As for events, most events other regions are running right now don't exist for our version, just as they didn't have them back then :)


    We know the drop situation is very tricky though and we're doing best to try and guarantee a more enjoyable experience for you

    Well, you guys knew drop situation is very tricky since first few weeks since people were angry about it... yet after, lets say, 3 months? no changes at all except 2weeks drop event which for example always include Nohsana(WHY?!) and currently no BT.

    And of course this issue in threads below is soooo enjoyable that many players already left. For who exactly is vendor price nerf enjoyable?

    NPC Vendor prices 2009 vs 2023


    "It will be worth farming monsters"

    Drops are not something we can change on our own. I can't give the details but things have been done already, although they might not have been enough


    Vendor price nerf is not a EU thing. Prices were reduced by the time KR was in 2.4 and since we're using this patch with gated content for our custom version, we have the official prices for 2.4

    Can we expect any changes to drop rate especially manastones in particular? There are no attack and magic resistance stones available or the only ones that are cost millions. Would appreciate the answer as i want to know if it's worth to continue playing or not.

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    Can we expect any changes to drop rate especially manastones in particular? There are no attack and magic resistance stones available or the only ones that are cost millions. Would appreciate the answer as i want to know if it's worth to continue playing or not.

    has it been changed in Korea? If not, you got your answer.

    aside from being fake news since the stones were 450k earlier today and someone just scalped them, those prices are more than okay.

    don't act like your crutch ezpz mode cheese mr luxury sets are a necessity.

    tbf magic resist stones costed millions back in the day too cuz ye it was the cheese way to pvp.


    i personally think that the game is fine with the current events of 100% xp and drop rate. I wish it extended to manastones too cuz it's a nightmare to socket anything or stigmas cuz some of them are essencial to play and they cost millions but other than that im enjoying the game rn

    Quote from Drestam

    Drops are not something we can change on our own. I can't give the details but things have been done already, although they might not have been enough


    Vendor price nerf is not a EU thing. Prices were reduced by the time KR was in 2.4 and since we're using this patch with gated content for our custom version, we have the official prices for 2.4

    You guys are like government institutions... "It wasnt us, they did it! Go be mad at them!" No. You are in charge of the game here in EU. It doesn't matter how much you claim rates are the same as KR - it doesn't change the fact that they suck. A lot of players here in the forums have also played the OG 2.x patches and can remember quite clearly how it wasn't as nerfed to the ground as here...


    What koreans do with their game is their business. If you can't provide an enjoyable experience here for EU players they will just leave. How much players has the game lost since launch, care to share that statistic? Since day 1 players have been against this vendor sell nerf and drop rates nerf and nothing has been done for months with the same dismissive excuse "its same in korea" as if thats going to somehow make it -not- crap...

    If you can do 2x drop event, you can alter drop rates. For manastones/balic mats etc.. well here's something you can do: give them to us for free. If you can't fix the rates to make them drop, just give them via survey to players with active Siel subscription. And given the fail rates, something like 100 free -selectable- stones per week, with no limitation to 1 char, would not be crazy. Make then [Event] so they can't be sold (very often that's not even enough to socket 1 piece of eternal or abyss gear).


    As for instance drops, the 2x event should be permanent and extend so BT. You want people to keep on paying for siel/shop stuff? Give them what they want (that should drop normally in game but doesn't!) and is necessary to properly play the game.


    Low level class stigmas for advanced trees are also necessary, so again, give them to us if the game system is so broken they didn't think of this. Like Sage's Wisdom, barely 1-2 for sale for 20kk+, what a joke.

    Quote from Drestam

    Drops are not something we can change on our own. I can't give the details but things have been done already, although they might not have been enough


    Vendor price nerf is not a EU thing. Prices were reduced by the time KR was in 2.4 and since we're using this patch with gated content for our custom version, we have the official prices for 2.4

    What you guys always forget to mention is that KR is optimized for pay2win.
    That stuff was removed from the game only in OUR version - so please don't play the game "We can't change anything - it's korea that does everything" when you clearly have an influence.

    Even not-so-smart people should come to the conclusion that when you remove the pay2win items, you should revert any changes that were made solely to incentivize pay2win purchases.