Why is EU classic so nerfed compared to NA?

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    Quote from Telegehteh
    Quote from Drestam

    Drops are not something we can change on our own. I can't give the details but things have been done already, although they might not have been enough


    Vendor price nerf is not a EU thing. Prices were reduced by the time KR was in 2.4 and since we're using this patch with gated content for our custom version, we have the official prices for 2.4

    What you guys always forget to mention is that KR is optimized for pay2win.
    That stuff was removed from the game only in OUR version - so please don't play the game "We can't change anything - it's korea that does everything" when you clearly have an influence.

    Even not-so-smart people should come to the conclusion that when you remove the pay2win items, you should revert any changes that were made solely to incentivize pay2win purchases.

    You're mistaking translation for localization.

    Gameforge only translates and hosts the game. They don't localize it.

    In fact, Aion doesn't have proper localization at all. Only some minor attempts at it.

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    TBH GF would as a rule say what changes they want on each patch before its given to them for them to do what needs to be done before its released, so in my eyes its something GF asked for.

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    It doesn't matter who changed it and it doesnt matter who we blame KR or GF it doesnt matter...


    What matters is GF has no desire to fix this issue because they don't consider it an issue because "but KR did it!". Despite players complaining about it since day 0. That should tell you enough about this company.

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    So glad to do the most difficult instance in game (BT HM) and see only 1 (ONE) weapon for 25+ runs, and even not from last boss, but Flarestorm. Not talking that I do BT HM almost all runs as only plate and got only 2 plate parts for all runs, but both of them from last 4 runs. Previous ~20 nothing. Imagine doing instance 3 weeks non-stop and not get rewarded.
    In general it's 0 ET items for one run with about 50% chance from my experience.

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    The mini-boss rewards in Taloc is what I really noticed.

    They are between 100k to around 300k XP on the EU servers, where as they are in the 10's of millions XP on the NA servers, which makes them an important sources of solo leveling XP.

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    Like Desperation, doing the 7 allocated BTHM per week with my premade and so far, no weapons or wings in 20+ runs. From the top of my head, 3 Runs didn't have an eternal. It's cool to get the gear but the weapon being close to non existant freaking sucks. It's not like we can craft the Drenium/Balic weapons since either the plans or mats are unavailable despise the number of bots farming for all of us lazy people who should farm 10 hours a day to reach the 2kk daily limit... /S

    Manastone prices are going to the moon, Plans are close to non existant, Balic Mats drop once every full moon and once you hit Ingisson / Gelkmaros, white & blue world loot drop will make you feel like you just found gold

    All these problems and more have been the same for weeks and so far, nothing has been done.

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    Quote from Gravi

    Manastone prices are going to the moon

    That's mainly bots' fault, people are buying kinah from them so server economy gets ruined with massive inflation, like happened in NA. GF didn't do anything about it and now it's too late, the only players with kinah will be those buying it illegally while the rest are left behind with their kinah losing value everyday.

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    Quote from Deepee

    The mini-boss rewards in Taloc is what I really noticed.

    They are between 100k to around 300k XP on the EU servers, where as they are in the 10's of millions XP on the NA servers, which makes them an important sources of solo leveling XP.

    That's a change that happened in 2.5 or 2.7 that increased exp from taloc mobs by alot

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    Quote from Rospet
    Quote from Deepee

    The mini-boss rewards in Taloc is what I really noticed.

    They are between 100k to around 300k XP on the EU servers, where as they are in the 10's of millions XP on the NA servers, which makes them an important sources of solo leveling XP.

    That's a change that happened in 2.5 or 2.7 that increased exp from taloc mobs by alot

    NA 2.4 (no logs from 2.0, not sure if it was lower)


    2022.12.27 14:58:38 : ::XP::1185808::Mob:Kinquid

    2022.12.27 15:06:46 : ::XP::1185808::Mob:Queen Mosqua

    2022.12.27 15:10:35 : ::XP::1247688::Mob:Celestius


    1.18-1.25M xp each


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    EU 2.0


    2023.08.18 01:30:31 : ::XP::296452::Mob:Kinquid

    2023.08.18 01:39:34 : ::XP::296452::Mob:Queen Mosqua

    2023.08.18 01:43:28 : ::XP::327518::Mob:Celestius


    296-327K xp .....

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    EU retail 2.0 (or was it higher?) (got no logs under NA, GF took over around Feb 2011 iirc)


    2011.10.18 09:04:47 : You have gained 458,525 XP from Celestius (Energy of Repose 131,007).


    327,518 xp like classic


    Pity I have no NA 2.0 logs, curious now.

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    Looks like things aren´t running very good anyways for Gameforge. Normal Daeva pass seems not to bring enough profit, thats why they bring event pass after event pass for every which you shall buy currency in cash shop.......

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    Well we all know GF saying you have to work at it to get something that's there saying so its GF who done this and yes i also played NA Classic so do know there is a big Diff

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    Wondering why there are tons of bots and despite everything nobody deals with them? Well I guess they are GF's bots, making extra cash off you. You ever saw a ridiculous item and thought, who the hell will buy this? Well if that item is on the market there are people buying it. As long as players keep buying their garbage nothing will change. I don't know whether I should cry or laugh because of the miserable level of this server and despite doing everything the "reward" I get in return is nothing close to what it was before.

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    Quote from Babydots

    Well we all know GF saying you have to work at it to get something that's there saying so its GF who done this and yes i also played NA Classic so do know there is a big Diff

    Absolutely true.

    When GF release 2.0 patch I bought a 30day Siels Energy and was only able to get my L50 cleric to L54 in 30 days of solo playing a few hours each day.


    On the NA server it would take me 3-4days max.

    I would say that leveling on NA Aion classic is 10x faster then GF Aion Classic.


    I presume the slow progress is to force players to pay more money.