AION Classic roadmap and the fast update schedule

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    No, the game will keep losing players over time just like any other mmorpg we have out there


    It´s not nearly the same situation as for all other mmorpgs out there. AIONs first turn was the same situation as for all other mmorpgs but AION classic is the second (and last) chance for AION and GAmeforge (and the natural outcome) screwed so many things:

    - the enourmos bot problem they don´t handle

    - the kinah income problem that is calculated by Gameforge

    - the AP gain problem

    - Tahabata as a second really underpopulated server

    - the technical problems

    - and the natural run of things that lots of people are disappointed because they check, that AION classic isn´t the old AION they new (not to blame Gameforge here).


    This and more is why AION classic already lost plenty of players and why should already disappointed players invest more time and money in a new patch 2.0? Sure, you satisfy those who wanted 2.0 from start but you dissappoint those, who wanted and want 1.9 or less, so its a zero sum game for player numbers with a slight variation up or down.



    mostly agree with u with one expection of bots. I think gameforge handled bots very well. They reduced world drops and kept droprate in instances which is one of the best protections against bots (unpopular opinion).


    They set kinah limit nearly impossible to reach by a normal player (with real life) but against a good protection against bots.


    All this makes it "too hard" for botters and they rather choose other games to bot in.


    Check this video:


    if u compare it to world of warcraft, aion is almost bot-less !!!


    If you want to play MMORPG without bots, on an official server, then dont play mmorpg because they are totally everywhere and gameforge handles this war perfectly.

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    Sure, you satisfy those who wanted 2.0 from start but you dissappoint those, who wanted and want 1.9 or less, so its a zero sum game for player numbers with a slight variation up or down.

    In a way yes, but releasing more content is always an opportunity to get new players.

    1.x is a stallmate, there's no real reason for new players to join in if they didn't already, new content might make some players want to check the game out.


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    All this makes it "too hard" for botters and they rather choose other games to bot in.

    if u compare it to world of warcraft, aion is almost bot-less !!!

    No, they choose WOW over Aion because the demand for in game gold in WOW is way higher than in Aion.

    Aion is niche so 'investing" into setting up bot environment for gold sellers is way more risky in terms of stale profit than doing it for an popular game like wow


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    They reduced world drops and kept droprate in instances which is one of the best protections against bots (unpopular opinion).

    Bots can glitch into textures and easily solo any boss without taking damage, so also a bad example.


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    One really good PC with newest cpu can run up to about 10 bots on virtual machines. That PC costs lot of money and if you do botting for living you cant work/use that PC for anything else.

    So in your opinion that's how goldsellers launch their bots? They get multiple high end PCson their end and launch the clients on VMs and just let them run?

    Did it ever crossed your mind that they could use custom "clients" where they just mock the communication with the server without the need of loading entire game to the memory and just opperate on sending specific commands without the game client even running?

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    So then there is a kinah sell limit which is very hard to bypass as you need to be lvl50 to unlock current max limit.

    Yeah, so hard to bypass you can just trade the items to another account to sell.

    Using common sense not working with some people , dont even try.
    Not even talking about gameforge's way of punishing ap traders with just few days of bans after AP trading hundreds of thousands of AP, instead of removing their AP and abyss gear like Ncsoft did.
    All we got sofar is empty promises.


    How can someone trade hundreds of thousands of AP?


    You can kill the same person 5x - 6x per day to gain AP from him.


    Per person max like 3k ap per day. (if you kill each other at same rank)


    please provide exact guide how is it possible. Or you are liar.

    You dont know what are you talking. Before you talk about something, you better check facts and do some research.


    There is not working "no gravity" hack in aion because Gameforge implemented protection against it, server-side check teleports you back to ground. It works on retail, not on classic.


    The point is if you create another account you need to level it up to 50lvl and then you need to log in to it everyday to sell it. Manually cuz programming all this is not worth it - impossible. For 2 euro daily, too much of work.


    There is nothing such as soloing boss. You are liar. Nobody can do it. There is NO hack that can help you to solo boss. It was 12 years ago. Not now.

    Everyone is crying so much, why I dont feel any trouble playing and you constantly keep complaining. You are bad players and blaming it on everything/everyone else but you. Thats probably it.


    Learn to play is the answer for your complains.

    Lol why the F would i provide info about how they do it? Half the server who cares about that knows who were the players that did that. I have nothing to prove to you n offense but your opinion matters the same to me like mine to you, as it seems 0.

    P.s Get a life

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    Lol why the F would i provide info about how they do it? Half the server who cares about that knows who were the players that did that. I have nothing to prove to you n offense but your opinion matters the same to me like mine to you, as it seems 0.

    P.s Get a life


    Why you so mad? Can you talk like a normal human without all this angry a rudeness? I quess not.


    You have nothing to prove because u cannot prove. There is AP cap that is working really well against trading. You can literally gain little bit AP thats it. NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS PER DAY like you claim. you are a liar.


    PS: I cant take seriously literally noone here cuz you are all lying and if i KNOW you lie about one thing, how can i trust you that rest of your claims arent mad eup lies aswell. Please provide only facts, not assumings, not what you are thinking. But Facts.


    Things often works different way than you think. So dont think. Use valid facts as arguments.

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    Please provide only facts, not assumings, not what you are thinking. But Facts.

    Oh so you mean that's a fact and not just assumptions then?


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    There is not working "no gravity" hack in aion because Gameforge implemented protection against it, server-side check teleports you back to ground. It works on retail, not on classic.


    The point is if you create another account you need to level it up to 50lvl and then you need to log in to it everyday to sell it. Manually cuz programming all this is not worth it - impossible. For 2 euro daily, too much of work.


    There is nothing such as soloing boss. You are liar. Nobody can do it. There is NO hack that can help you to solo boss. It was 12 years ago. Not now.

    Makes whole lot more sense why you're so strongly against GF taking any actions against bots x)


    That aside I think if you're pretending to be an expert claiming everyone is "lying", then you should at least have a wider look at the tools available and not just rely on a single tool you're familar with.

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    This here is about AION and Gameforge only and just talking about myself, I don´t give a s..t how other games I don´t play deal with bots or not. And just because other companies do it worse doesn´t mean automatically Gameforge does it good.....

    Gameforge does it better than any other company

    K, as far as you refuse to get the point: no one here gives a s..t how other companies do it or not, this here is the officially AION forum, the point is AION and Gameforge and nothing else.

    And as long as I can run to any possible quest NPC in Elten, Heiron or wherever at any possible time and find there for sure xeveral different groups with multiple bot accounts each doing repeatable quests and using porthacls, Gameforge is so far away from handling the bot problem good as you are obviously far away from finding the "edit-your-post"-function.....

    heu no if gameforge really wanted to delete botting they have just to ban VPN and banIP the bots (so the player underground the bot is also ban ) and to only allowed one person /ip (exception for familly with ID CARD and IP ADRESS with the check of identity ==> they do it on dofus servers)

    This has got to be a parody? Right?


    I am currently trying to level an Alt and everywhere I go there are armies of bots TPing all over the map, in every zone, in every channel.


    To suggest otherwise is complete lunacy.

    He (Desperation) is right though. For many 50s its just: login, do DP, Dred, Arena, Asteria/Roah and logout. I did around 50-60 DP (35S runs) runs on my Chanter and its not fun anymore because its really unrewarding when it comes to weapons. I only saw 4 Tahabata Weapons. Most people craft them anyway.


    Desperation ... Maybe you should create a second character, get some variation into your gameplay or just wait for 2.0. This patch has not that much content. 2.0 will be way better.

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    Sure, you satisfy those who wanted 2.0 from start but you dissappoint those, who wanted and want 1.9 or less, so its a zero sum game for player numbers with a slight variation up or down.

    In a way yes, but releasing more content is always an opportunity to get new players.

    1.x is a stallmate, there's no real reason for new players to join in if they didn't already, new content might make some players want to check the game out.

    isnt any content new for new players?

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    isnt any content new for new players?

    In a rerun of already existing game? No, I don't think it is

    Also if they didn't get hooked up with what classic had to offer at start/with current patch, then there are little chances they will get into it without any new content

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    apparently we have a different definition of new players.

    There are no such new players by your definition. Why should a real new player who never played AION start with AION, no matter if classic or live? This is a 12 year old game with old graphics, old engine, bad support, etc. If you start AION classic as 100% vanilla you have to deal with veterans with 12 years of experience, high end gear, etc. If you start classic as 100% vanilla you deal with veterans with 12 years of experience, who mostly know their classes and every way and trick, to reach goals faster and better. So why the hell should a 100% new player who never played AIOn hate himself that much to punish himself with competing with veterans?

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    apparently we have a different definition of new players.

    There are no such new players by your definition. Why should a real new player who never played AION start with AION, no matter if classic or live? This is a 12 year old game with old graphics, old engine, bad support, etc. If you start AION classic as 100% vanilla you have to deal with veterans with 12 years of experience, high end gear, etc. If you start classic as 100% vanilla you deal with veterans with 12 years of experience, who mostly know their classes and every way and trick, to reach goals faster and better. So why the hell should a 100% new player who never played AIOn hate himself that much to punish himself with competing with veterans?

    because not everything is about epeen, insecurities and competition.

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    apparently we have a different definition of new players.

    There are no such new players by your definition. Why should a real new player who never played AION start with AION, no matter if classic or live? This is a 12 year old game with old graphics, old engine, bad support, etc. If you start AION classic as 100% vanilla you have to deal with veterans with 12 years of experience, high end gear, etc. If you start classic as 100% vanilla you deal with veterans with 12 years of experience, who mostly know their classes and every way and trick, to reach goals faster and better. So why the hell should a 100% new player who never played AIOn hate himself that much to punish himself with competing with veterans?

    because not everything is about epeen, insecurities and competition.

    Wrong post quoted? Makes zero sense.....