AION Classic roadmap and the fast update schedule

    Quote from Moondemon

    Checking the poll result is enough for me. And how you "feel" about my "insinuations" does not matter to me. You are manipulative and try to push your narrative by dismissing other opinions with assumptions about their personality and motives. They feel different than I do? Oh they must be habitual complainers. Right.

    I could just as well claim most people are mindless lemmings who just click anything that is presented to them ingame away without reading it by choosing the first (or a random) option. There goes your ingame poll validity if I would go to that (your) level.

    What "manipulations" are you referring to, lol. I'm not trying to push anything I'm just sharing my opinion which is that this patch sux for pvp and 2.0 is better. You think I'd go out of my way and waste time of my day to try and "push" some "narrative" in a freaking dead game's forum? It's not that deep.


    Your second point makes no sense to me. How do you know that the majority of people are mindless lemmings who wouldn't read a poll? So because you think that its better to not do it? Makes no sense. Just do the stupid poll and decide on that. People may in fact prefer to have this nostalgia grind for couple of months more, makes no difference to me that I prefer 2.0 .. I'll just wait for it.

    What part of "I could" and "if I would go to that (your) level" did you not understand?


    Yes, I have no way to know that the majority of people are mindless lemmings who don't read popups (even if there are plenty who are just like that). That is exactly why I am not making that claim, or write it as if it was fact.

    Because that would be just on the same level as your nonsensical claim about people on the forums "complaining for the sake of complaining" and even claiming it to be fact that nobody can deny.


    Done with you twisting and wiggling. Keep spending time on this "dead game's forum" while claiming you don't care about it :)

    This Announcement especially was a joke because of the problems, we have since a week.

    It's already time for the next 3 days compensation 😡

    Seriously I'm gonna stop playing if the 2.X stuff releases so soon. I was thinking that that they might release at the start of autumn and I still believed it would be too f*ing early. I wanted to play classic to feel the way I felt when first played the game 10ish years ago. I didn't remember getting anxious to the next patch release and the fact im not going to enjoy current patch. So if this release happens so soon , it is not classic anymore to me. I was going to buy 90 days of siels energy. But now I wont do so unless gf pushes the release towards at least october. 3 months is not enough to enjoy classic.

    Quote from xtremellada

    Seriously I'm gonna stop playing if the 2.X stuff releases so soon. I was thinking that that they might release at the start of autumn and I still believed it would be too f*ing early. I wanted to play classic to feel the way I felt when first played the game 10ish years ago. I didn't remember getting anxious to the next patch release and the fact im not going to enjoy current patch. So if this release happens so soon , it is not classic anymore to me. I was going to buy 90 days of siels energy. But now I wont do so unless gf pushes the release towards at least october. 3 months is not enough to enjoy classic.

    and again if you think that this is CLASSIC 1.9 you are wrong you have rebalanced few classes atm cap 50 can be reached in 2 days you have full steel beard set. and like KR said it is different Aion with different progression without bards and gunners with new class executor with rebalanced classes at all , adjusted difficulty of dungeon, solo dungeons remake. So why you still nostalgie about 1.9 you already playing other game.
    I really dont understand this IF they RELEASE PATCH I WILL LEAVE.ok leave,but take in mind that you havent played old Aion you played new Aion with many changes. and GF said that wanted to start 2.5 straight but instead of it gave you changed 1.9. So goin in next patch to catch up KR is good desicion.

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    Seriously I'm gonna stop playing if the 2.X stuff releases so soon. I was thinking that that they might release at the start of autumn and I still believed it would be too f*ing early. I wanted to play classic to feel the way I felt when first played the game 10ish years ago. I didn't remember getting anxious to the next patch release and the fact im not going to enjoy current patch. So if this release happens so soon , it is not classic anymore to me. I was going to buy 90 days of siels energy. But now I wont do so unless gf pushes the release towards at least october. 3 months is not enough to enjoy classic.

    and again if you think that this is CLASSIC 1.9 you are wrong you have rebalanced few classes atm cap 50 can be reached in 2 days you have full steel beard set. and like KR said it is different Aion with different progression without bards and gunners with new class executor with rebalanced classes at all , adjusted difficulty of dungeon, solo dungeons remake. So why you still nostalgie about 1.9 you already playing other game.
    I really dont understand this IF they RELEASE PATCH I WILL LEAVE.ok leave,but take in mind that you havent played old Aion you played new Aion with many changes. and GF said that wanted to start 2.5 straight but instead of it gave you changed 1.9. So goin in next patch to catch up KR is good desicion.

    I agree with everything except level 55.


    VERTICAL SCALING is the worst in the world of MMORPG. It killed AION and Linage 2, and it will kill "classic" as well.


    Very nice when you grind your equipment, you enchant it, then new patch comes and your TOP GEAR becomes an average (in best case) or even garbage.


    I took a look at roadmap, everything is fine EXCEPT stupid 55 lvl, with new gear and broken skills/stigmas.

    I would say switching to 2.x could wait 1 extra month compared to current release schedule, but people who are saying 2.x will ruin the game or abyss pvp etc, in my opinion you are wrong especially if we consider this current nerfed custom patch we have compared to true Aion.
    Classic 2.x patch would balance lot of things and would make the game less grindy regarding AP and Kinah etc, just to mention one thing, krotan miren kysis instances.
    Im only talking about 2.0 patch with the rest i would hope they will wait a year or more or not even patch at all especially 2.5 and what follows it.
    I bet you if we would have a separate poll about if players want 2.5 "yes" or "no" , no would have min 80% if not more of the votes.

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    I would say switching to 2.x could wait 1 extra month compared to current release schedule, but people who are saying 2.x will ruin the game or abyss pvp etc, in my opinion you are wrong especially if we consider this current nerfed custom patch we have compared to true Aion.
    Classic 2.x patch would balance lot of things and would make the game less grindy regarding AP and Kinah etc, just to mention one thing, krotan miren kysis instances.
    Im only talking about 2.0 patch with the rest i would hope they will wait a year or more or not even patch at all especially 2.5 and what follows it.
    I bet you if we would have a separate poll about if players want 2.5 "yes" or "no" , no would have min 80% if not more of the votes.

    there is a route to catch up with KR. and how many posts who disagree will write it wont change the route.
    and lvl 55 cap is a good thing. new skills.slots for stigma.

    Current classic is far old Aion was so idk why u hold this patch so badly if they can't fix major problems not to mention current version is grind nothing else

    Quote from Wololo

    I would say switching to 2.x could wait 1 extra month compared to current release schedule, but people who are saying 2.x will ruin the game or abyss pvp etc, in my opinion you are wrong especially if we consider this current nerfed custom patch we have compared to true Aion.
    Classic 2.x patch would balance lot of things and would make the game less grindy regarding AP and Kinah etc, just to mention one thing, krotan miren kysis instances.
    Im only talking about 2.0 patch with the rest i would hope they will wait a year or more or not even patch at all especially 2.5 and what follows it.
    I bet you if we would have a separate poll about if players want 2.5 "yes" or "no" , no would have min 80% if not more of the votes.

    everyone has their opinion and their favourite patch. after every major patch you are going to lose people until you end up at retail. content and player wise. some people crave for 2.x to grind easier and get more ap by not doing pvp, other prefer 1.x exactly for the opposite.


    not saying it is a good/bad thing, but it is what it is. i will be out with 2.x as well. not like you have to care nor that it matters, but again, it is what it is. i am not here to relive the road of aion and its downfall. i was only here to play its classic version. grind, rifts, sieges (which were ruined), dredgion, zergs, world bosses and also reshanta.

    Indeed. Instead of constantly increasing levels and invalidating previous progress they could have chosen a different approach and offer broader content instead of higher content with this Aion Retry, how I call it.


    Examples


    Implement some usefull legion system. Capturing fortresses and getting benefits from it was a good start. Not ideal, but a motivation for a legion to organise and do something. Add legion quests to increase legion levels instead of plainly using kinah to. Add legion arenas 24 vs 24.


    Reintroduce housing and expand on it. The idea with advantages by owning larger houses was okay. Expanding storage space was neat. Especially now with the shared cube. Collecting furniture and getting rare statues of slain bosses was okay. Having some houses in rift zones was exciting. It provided a whole new craft group. Could have done alot more with the housing content.


    Make the crafts actually worth someting. Like add set bonus to a fully crafted Noble Wise Dragon King set. Implement the personalised crafts already on the level 50 crafts. Let expert alchemists craft untradeable 30 minute scrolls or something like that. The only use of tailoring right now are the balic skins, the cowl and siege weapon parts. Give a bigger incentive for players to level up a craft. Remove the expert restriction so one can expert all crafts on one character and give a warehouse row for each of it.


    Make the titles collectables that actually accumulate bonuses, so that there is an incentive to play the actual content, do quests and get as many as possible.


    Expand the wardrobe system. What we have now is a good start, but like I suggested years before, a system like GW2 has would be awesome in Aion. Aion has so many beautiful skins and we only ever see a fraction of it and can stash even smaller amount of it.


    Make a progressive abyss gear system. For example one was able to exchange a level 30 elite armor for the level 40 one and by that get a price reduction or sell an abyss piece for half its buying price. Right now it is silly to buy a lower version of an abyss stigma. If one was also able to buy a higher version cheaper by providing a lower version, it might change. Implement a pity system for every dungeon. Like we have it now on Tahabata, but for the tenth of the current kinah requirement. Lucky players and players who play more get gear more quickly, fine. Yet every player should know, that even if they are unlucky, by doing that dungeon n-amount of times, one is done.


    Reimplement the group versions for Nochsana Training Camp and Steel Rake and let players choose which one they want to run. This is an MMORPG afterall. Make all loot-quests for the whole group and do not punish people for grouping up. Like instead of fifty Sylphens we have to slay atleast one hundred in a group. Turn sieges back how they used to be and give the owning legion some special means to defend it. Make the balaur more active and diverse.


    Those are just some thoughts on how to offer more content instead of higher content. Certainly none agrees with all of this, but that would be my Aion fantasy so to write. Aion at its time had alot of potential. Unfortunately they did not use and refine most of it. And yeah, I am aware that the path is set and those suggestions are useless.. but one can still dream about it.

    not bad not bad. but this is some other aion,but i would like to have it :D

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    Quote from Wololo

    I would say switching to 2.x could wait 1 extra month compared to current release schedule, but people who are saying 2.x will ruin the game or abyss pvp etc, in my opinion you are wrong especially if we consider this current nerfed custom patch we have compared to true Aion.
    Classic 2.x patch would balance lot of things and would make the game less grindy regarding AP and Kinah etc, just to mention one thing, krotan miren kysis instances.
    Im only talking about 2.0 patch with the rest i would hope they will wait a year or more or not even patch at all especially 2.5 and what follows it.
    I bet you if we would have a separate poll about if players want 2.5 "yes" or "no" , no would have min 80% if not more of the votes.

    everyone has their opinion and their favourite patch. after every major patch you are going to lose people until you end up at retail. content and player wise. some people crave for 2.x to grind easier and get more ap by not doing pvp, other prefer 1.x exactly for the opposite.


    not saying it is a good/bad thing, but it is what it is. i will be out with 2.x as well. not like you have to care nor that it matters, but again, it is what it is. i am not here to relive the road of aion and its downfall. i was only here to play its classic version. grind, rifts, sieges (which were ruined), dredgion, zergs, world bosses and also reshanta.

    If we would have kroten miren kysis forts like in original Aion and would not have most of the brainless nerf/changes i would not mind staying 1.9 for long as possible.
    But source of AP now is not Pvp at all and as melee like templar its lot harder to gain AP compared to most ranged/dps classes unless someone nolifer or whaling etc.

    But as you said we have idiot siege system, nerfed dredgion and other nerfed ap sources and so on.

    Quote from Angel

    Indeed. Instead of constantly increasing levels and invalidating previous progress they could have chosen a different approach and offer broader content instead of higher content with this Aion Retry, how I call it.

    i like aion retry. gonna stick to that one.

    I was very good to bring GW2 as example. Because it has HORIZONTAL progression: dungeons, sieges, story etc.


    Different weapons and armors create different builds for players and it's nice ( but armor and damage stats are the same )


    We could have the same here instead of level 55, then level 60.... bla bla bla . it's lame, lazy and stupid approach (which was huge error and you have real example of it)


    Aion Retry - great example how it should be (IMHO)


    P.S.

    Games with horizontal scale:

    Guild Wars 2 - release 2012 - online 500k+

    World of Tanks (EU) - release 2010 - online 350k+

    Thank you all for the feedback. Everything will be forwarded, the parts where people agree with the roadmap and the parts where people don't. I would like to point out, however, that it does not guarantee that we can adapt our plans. This roadmap has been planned for quite some time and we might not be able to change it. This is not something we can do on the fly.


    We know you value AION Classic a lot and we will make our best to match your expectations :)

    like i said you can write thousands post about how you disagree with this roadmap. but direction they planned earlier wont be change. maybe but im not sure you can expect it in august 10+

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    1. I only see individual opinions and as much as everyone likes the game in one way or another, the final decision is up to the GF and who will stick with what they have planned. Sooner or later the classic EU server will become Live and classic NA. Words for what.